Civilian 7.62 To Be "Outlawed" By The UN

[burpgun]

Don't forget Mexico. It has had the same ban for many years.

Get North America out of the UN and the UN out of North America.

We have to hope the US Democratic Party, can find another Teddy Roosevelt, he was a Democrat and immensely popular. The Dems have certainly been on a very slippery slope since Teddy.

CORRECTION - T.R. was a REPUBLICAN!

[burpgun]

( I for one, don't want the US in the UN or NATO as they cause too many problems and wars ).

I suppose you only love us when the occupying army is marching through your capital.

[read6737]

You forget that the French sent an army to help you win the war of independence, and we saved your day and bacon just as you were about to loose, with out the French there would have been no USA.

When we twice needed you you were years LATE.

You also forget that the statue of liberty was gift to you by us the French nation to remind you what freedom and liberty stand for, and the aims which you had as a new growing nation, when you had the chance to be great.

Do not get me wrong, I have had many great experiences in the US and have great friends there.
I had the pleasure of working there for 7 weeks in 1996 in command of a large number of US police officers and other law enforcement persons, but unfortunately some hated the fact a foreigner was there in command and telling them what to do.

I am happy and thankful that you did come to help us twice.

I will END the banter now as I don't want it to get out of hand.

We all live in one world, and the ability to communicate is paramount.
To have views and discuss them is essential even if you do not agree as
we all have a point of view and different experiences and needs.
This is how we make the world a better place.

Best regards to you all.

[Badger]

I will end the banter now as I don't want it to get out of hand.

Thank you ...

Regards,
Badger

[Brian Dick]

I don't think the problem in the USA or anywhere else for that matter is a Liberal vs. Conservative or Democrat vs. Republican one. It's progressives infiltrating all political parties. There are plenty in both U.S. political parties and they're the real problem. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive. Read your history guys. ATB.

[Surpmil]

I don't think the problem in the USA or anywhere else for that matter is a Liberal vs. Conservative or Democrat vs. Republican one. It's progressives infiltrating all political parties. There are plenty in both U.S. political parties and they're the real problem. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive. Read your history guys. ATB.

I would call them degenerates rather than progressives, as the result of their actions is social, political, and ultimately national, degeneration.

Teddy Roosevelt was a fluke; his presidency the result of the assasination of McKinley. Progressive compared to the robber barons who were bringing the US to the brink of serious social unrest, of which McKinley's assassination was a feature, yes. Not by any of today's measures though.

[Brian Dick]

I've checked the ODTC, (U.S. State Dept.), website today and the L42A1 is approved for export along with three other Long Branch Lees, No.4 x 2 and a No.7. The license should be signed by tomorrow and I'll pack and get the firearms on the license on the way next week. There you have the facts. Another "evil" 7.62 NATO caliber rifle WILL be exported from the USA. I suspect that the ruling doesn't apply to obsolete curio and relic rifles, just current issue rifles like the L96, AW and M40/M24. That's just my opinion though so take it for what it's worth.

[bearhunter]

You're right guys, I should bone up a bit more on US politics. I was always under the impression the TR was a Democrat. Oh well, live and learn.

By the way, I think the US gets a bad rap most of the time. They are always the first to help out in any disaster with meaningful support. They're experienced at it and do a hell of a job. For some reason, the politically correct and social elites like to US bash.

One of the most dangerous people in the world to our cause is George Soros. He funds organizations like "Acorn". Acorn has recently been exposed in the US and was directly involved in providing funds for many in the last elections.

Acorn is also involved in Canadian politics but not as extensively as in the US. Dangerous people.

[Brian Dick]

Gents, I just printed the approved DSP5 permanent export license issued by the Office of Defense Trade Control, U.S. Dept. of State and there is a proviso that I've never encountered before. Here's your answer to the creeping changes being implemented by the UN of which the USA has now signed on. It states the following:

FYI: I'm the applicant as a DTC registrant.

APPLICANT MUST NOTIFY THE END USER IN WRITING THAT THE RSAF ENFIELD L42A1, CAL. 7.62X51 BOLT ACTION RIFLE, SN. AMXXXX, CANNOT BE RESOLD OR TRADED WITHOUT THE PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE US GOVERNMENT. APPLICANT MUST UPLOAD THE NOTIFICATION INTO D-TRADE UNDER THIS LICENSE NUMBER WITHIN 15 DAYS OF ITS APPROVAL.

There you have it. The facts as promised. Brian

[Alan de Enfield]

Gents, I just printed the approved DSP5 permanent export license issued by the Office of Defense Trade Control, U.S. Dept. of State and there is a proviso that I've never encountered before. Here's your answer to the creeping changes being implemented by the UN of which the USA has now signed on. It states the following:

FYI: I'm the applicant as a DTC registrant.

APPLICANT MUST NOTIFY THE END USER IN WRITING THAT THE RSAF ENFIELD L42A1, CAL. 7.62X51 BOLT ACTION RIFLE, SN. AMXXXX, CANNOT BE RESOLD OR TRADED WITHOUT THE PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE US GOVERNMENT. APPLICANT MUST UPLOAD THE NOTIFICATION INTO D-TRADE UNDER THIS LICENSE NUMBER WITHIN 15 DAYS OF ITS APPROVAL.

There you have it. The facts as promised. Brian

Maybe being a little bit dense but does this mean that you can sell the L42 but you must inform the buyer that he cannot resell it without Government approval ?

Or :

You must inform the buyer that you cannot sell the L42 without Govenment approval ?