Amazing AIA, they're baack

[jmoore]

The fancy ladder sights were probably the single most expensive parts of the rifle, originally. On some types of weapons they cost up to 20-30% of the entire unit price! Thus, they're often one of the first things to go...

[Surpmil]

Jeez, there's some rotten sods about, taking a blokes rifle book, and the ute too! Are the dog, the beers and the missus where ya left them?

Never mind that lot, what about the rifles??

And Dimitri, "alloy" is Australian for "aluminium" or "aluminium alloy".

Why dump on the only people who've made the effort to improve, update and otherwise keep current the Enfield action?

So some bits are made in Vietnam? Good, they're not a communist state anymore. Should we not buy something made in what was East Germany for example?

I'd love to have a No4 with a chrome-lined NOS Minigun barrel myself!

[Dimitri]

So some bits are made in Vietnam? Good, they're not a communist state anymore.

Humm its still very much a single party communist state. Not too sure what Vietnam your talking about.

CIA - The World Factbook -- Vietnam
Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Communist Party of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dimitri

[jmoore]

The important thing for me is that they are not Lee Enfields, and are but a passing interest here on a collectors forum.

In actual fact they ARE a Lee-Enfield variant, and, due to their limited production, are likely to be quite collectable.

They just aren't a MILITARY L-E, nor are they old, ....yet.

I'd happily disallow their discussion on this particular forum when you also disallow:

Parker Hale and other aftermarket sights
BSA et al. commercially produced L-Es
Non-military rebuilds
Police issue weapons such as Enforcers

Let's NOT even begin w/ VZ58s, AKs, AR platforms, Springfield Armory Inc. anything, etc.

Otherwise, if you've no interest, don't read!

[Son]

In actual fact they ARE a Lee-Enfield variant, and, due to their limited production, are likely to be quite collectable.

They just aren't a MILITARY L-E, nor are they old, ....yet.

I'd happily disallow their discussion on this particular forum when you also disallow:

Parker Hale and other aftermarket sights
BSA et al. commercially produced L-Es
Non-military rebuilds
Police issue weapons such as Enforcers

Let's NOT even begin w/ VZ58s, AKs, AR platforms, Springfield Armory Inc. anything, etc.

Otherwise, if you've no interest, don't read!

Ok, you missed what I said- it's in your quote from me posted above... "for me...."

By your definition (?) they are Lee Enfields. By my definition they were not made for military service at either a Government Small Arms Factory, or at a private sector factory under either a contract for military rifles or a licence to produce sporting rifles based on the design. Lee Enfields!
The other bits you mention are mostly accessories, bling.

No problem here, just our baselines are drawn in different spots, that's all.

If there's a problem there, lets talk about it in twenty years or so when they become collectables

just a thought, if a No4 is a Lee Enfield (Lee design, basically, Enfield improved/ produced) shouldn't the AIA rifles be Lee Brisbanes

Cheers,
Brad.

[jmoore]

Well, OK, then! Lee-Brisbanes! Gonna get confusing, though.... (LB vs L-B)

Ummm, If its a licensing thing, then I think, technically, No.4s aren't really a L-E either just an -E. Hence my contention, its a Lee derivative. (W/ features stolen from Enfield- Hey, maybe Enfield ought to sue...!!!!)

[Son]

Well, OK, then! Lee-Brisbanes! Gonna get confusing, though.... (LB vs L-B)

Ummm, If its a licensing thing, then I think, technically, No.4s aren't really a L-E either just an -E. Hence my contention, its a Lee derivative. (W/ features stolen from Enfield- Hey, maybe Enfield ought to sue...!!!!)

Yep, you make a good point, but who are they gonna sue? The Lee Brisbanes are truly a dispersal rifle, the component makers are scattered all aver the globe.

[enfield303t]

This forum has really turned into some great fun in my opinion and as most of you know I think the AIA rifles are great. If I hadn't bought a P17 and a No 4 T with all the goodies in the last week I would have one on order right now. Was going to order but cancelled as I just spent too many $$$$$$$$$$$$$ this week on my hobby. Will probably change my mind on spending today as I am going to the Gun Show in Kamloops and IF I can keep my wallet in my pocket will probably order a AIA from Marstar next week. Gotta get a AIA and if anyone ever moves to Canada and is allowed to bring a AIA in 7.62 X 39 PLEASE contact me as that is what I really want.

[Edward Horton]

I agree with Son, the AIA rifles are re-engineered modern reproductions of a classic rifle and no matter how hard you try to make it look good it just doesn't compare to the original item no matter how hard you try and pretty it up.



I might understand someone in Australia drinking too much O.P. Bundy and getting confused and buying one but that is still not an excuse for buying a forgery.

Both Son and I prefer the classic Enfield Lithgows even with their variety of stocking up methods.

[Surpmil]

Humm its still very much a single party communist state. Not too sure what Vietnam your talking about.

CIA - The World Factbook -- Vietnam
Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Communist Party of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dimitri

Forgive me if I'm out of touch on the current poltical scene there. (Educate us by all means) My impression was they are going "capitalist" in a hurry.

Let me rephrase that then, I'd feel no worse about having a rifle (partly?) made in Vietnam than I would one made in China - and you know how many of those are around these days - not that I own any.

As you can imagine, given the rather silly laws in various countries, AIA probably have to play their cards rather close to their chests. I don't blame them for that.

I assume that in the interests of moral consistency you don't own any weapons made in say, Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia?