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8mm mauser m1924 type 2
Just curious if anybody had some more information on this rifle any help would be appriciated.
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09-06-2010 05:35 PM
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Really need more information- The M1924 generally refers to an FN intermediate length action. I don't know who all purchased it. These became the Yugoslav standard issue longarm prior to the Nazi occupation in 1941. They had FN set them up a factory and they began producing their own 1924s under license from FN. These were 7.92 x 57 as you specify.
When you specify "type II" however, that sounds like a Yugoslav nomenclature, nothing I am familiar with FN using. The Yugoslavs produced 3 versions of the model 1924 "short rifle." There was the basic "short rifle" for infantry, and two "carbines." The "carbines" differed not at all in length or any other dimension but only by the addition of an extra set of side mounted sling swivels. These two "carbines" were designated as "Type I" & "Type II." The Type I was specified for cavalry use and had a bent bolt. (The basic model 1924 rifle had a straight bolt.) The "type II carbine" had a straight bolt and was intended for other mounted troops such as bicycle troops.
See pics below- The double stack image on left is of the "type II carbine." The weapon on the right is a model 1924 "short rifle" as issued to infantry. Note the extra sling swivels on the "carbine."
I can't be sure this answers your question but with no more info, it's all I can tell you. If you can post images or at least a description of receiver ring crest and/or side rail stamps, then I could verify whether or not it's Yugo.
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Some M1924 side rail markings and receiver ring crest used post WWI to 1941.
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I am continually amazed about the depth and breath of knowledge here!!!
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I got the type 2 nomenclature from this thread ( my rifle has these exact markings) and thanks for the information and anymore on my rifle would be appriciated.
Yugo model1924 type II
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Yep jim thank you very much i was always curious about the history of it it's funny my dad got this rifle in a barrell full of mausers back in the 70s for 25 bucks he used it for years for elk hunting and always did great anyways i always loved that old thing when i was young but for some reason he cut the stock to sporterize it ( why? i have no clue) well after many years he finally gave it to me and iam putting it back to original ( picking up a stock i found on ebay this weekend) .
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I did that with a model 1924 "rifle" (no extra side swivels). It went through three versions. The main problem was finding a model 1924 stock with a King Alexander I cartouche that hadn't been through refurb as a 24/47. They scrubbed the royal cartouche and added different stamps.
When I got the rifle (a friend gave it to me since it had been butchered beyond collectibility.) It came in an M48 stock with the straight bolt having been cut off and welded back bent and a radius cut out of the bolt arm for a scope clearance. The bolt struck the side of the stock and would not lock down. The really sad thing is that this was a "CXC" stamped rifle. (CXC- Cyrillic for SHS= denoting Kingdom of Serbs, Croats & Slovenes.) This was the first side marking- only 18,XXX rifles produced in 1928 and probably less than 50,000 in 1929 when the marking was changed to reflect the Kingdom's new name of "Kingdom of Yugoslavia." Perhaps less than 50,000 CXC marked Yugo made rifles in all. Who knows how many- really how few, escaped destruction, capture, wearing out and refurbing into 24/47? This rifle is relatively rare (in original condition) and it was butchered! Ahh well.
Anyway, restoration #1 involved replacing stock with 24/47 stock and straight bolt. Looked right is about all that could be said. Then #2, I found a stock with a complete King Alexander cartouche but otherwise modified as 24/47. Then finally, final & number 3, I found an unaltered 1st generation stock. It was some beat up but then, so was the finish of this rifle's metal work. It was a good match and nicely striped too! Further more, it's serial number was stamped not on the buttstock as was done with later M1924 rifles and later the 24/47s, butt on the side of the Right side of the stock under the receiver ring. Even better, it was so worn as to be nearly unreadable. You can hardly tell the stock does not match! Anyway, here's the pictorial history. https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=22655
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Ya the stock i found didnt have the cartouche but its in great shape for 60.00 bucks and all the hardware is there i will keep looking for a correct one though and if anybody has one ( iam interested) also can you point me to the correct strap for our rifles i see a couple on ebay but they all seem to differ slightly iam also looking for a correct bayonet.
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As far as I can tell, the sling you want is an M1930 and I have never seen one for sale. It has rather odd studs. Here's some pics. The sling came with the weapon in this case- not mine alas but courtesy of a friend.
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A correct bayonet would be the long one marked as shown. I also included a comparison page I made up for a publication. They can be found time to time on eBay, & gun auction sites. Prices can range between $65-$125+ though I would not recommend paying much beyond $75-$80 at most because though not offered frequently, they due turn up often enough to make it worthwhile waiting on a lower price. I only gave $67 for that one- delivered though I grant that was a year or three ago.
Strictly speaking, I should have a bayo stamped with the earlier "ATZ" as seen on the scabbard since my rifle was made in 1929 but, for the money I wasn't splitting hairs.
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Again jim thanks for the info i saw all the short ones on ebay but had no idea the long one was the correct one i almost pulled the trigger on one today anyways i got the new stock on this morning and it fit like a glove and is in great shape and looks great i just needed the set screws which i found.
Last edited by WFO; 09-12-2010 at 08:36 PM.