Unertl Scope Battery Reset

[mike radford]

The differences are quite noticeable in length. Although I notice the original USMC Unertl has a 1.5" objective aperture? Were USMC Unertl scopes made in both 1.25" and 1.5"?






Paul.

I am pretty sure that the 1.25 objective refers to the objective lens. The scope pictured has an 1.25 objective lens best I can measure. The sunshade is about 1.5 inches OD. I don't think the sunshade is were Unertl made their measurement. You will note in the chart above, the 1.25 12X scopes had an objective cell of 1 and five-eighths inches. I assume that is where the adjusting serrations are, which is bigger in OD than the sunshade and about 1 and five eighths inches.

I looked at a bunch of pictures on the net and all the period pictures I can find show a scope that looks identical to mine. Of course I do not have a side by side comparison but having posted this scope many times on at least 3 different rifles, nobody ever questioned its correctness. I have handled several other originals and they look like this scope, at least as best as I can recall.

[TW56]

Hi-Lux service is very helpful and I feel sure that they will resolve the problem I had. They are most responsive and apparently there have been no other problems reported with the Malcolm repro. I am pretty sure the problem is due to the front scope block on my M70 having a slightly larger notch to hold the scope than the notch on the block provided with the scope.

Now, here are a few pictures of the differences as compared with my original USMC Unertl.

Mike, thanks for the side by side pictures and the update on the Hi-Lux.

It almost looks as if Hi-Lux copied Lyman target spot style mounts and not Unertl mounts.

TW56

[Simon]

I realise I'm stretching the topic a bit with this post but I thought you might like to see some pics of my latest project. The serial number dates manufacture as 1958 and when she came to me she was a rather tired looking and shot out .243". Its been a slow project and has taken the best part of eighteen months to locate the parts I needed and get her to the stage she's at now. I was toying with the idea of aquiring one of the Malcolm scopes as unless I sell a Kidney I don't think I'll ever be lucky enough to own a Genuine U.S.M.C. Unertl, however I think I'll stick with the Lyman Targetspot.

For the finishing touches I'm on the lookout for a pair of sling swivels so I can add a canvas Garand sling, if anyone out there can help me locate a set I'd be extremely grateful.

Watch out for a range report at some point in the hopefully very near future.

Cheers,

Simon.

P.S. A big thank you to Andrew Evans-Hendrick and the team at Riflecraft for all their help with this project.

[JGaynor]

Poster over on the CMP forum contacted Leatherwood about some of the variances noted with their 8x target scope reproduction. A copy follows the underlining and bolding are mine:

"Response from Hi-Lux
I wrote to Hi-Lux and passed on our comments on the mounts issues. Here is Hi-Lux' response, with my e-mail appearing below:

Hi,

Thank you for your e-mail. Actually we did not copy the original 8X scope, because the optics that was used at the old time has no comparison with the today’s new optics. We need to redesign the whole optical system to make the scope that is capable to see a clear image at the low light situation. Because of the different optical systems, our scope cannot be the same length as the original one. That won’t be a problem to use. Our mounting system is getting very good now after several production run. We track this scope on the collimator , at the 7.2” spacing between the front and rear mounts, the each click is exactly the ¼ MOA adjustment and it is repeatable. Meantime we try to improve the finish of our steel mounts. Most people now are making the mount aluminum. But we try to stay to make the steel mounts. We sell the scope, mount, recoil spring and the bases for 1903 a1 as a package deal. We give the accessories free with the scope. This scope is one of the most difficult scopes to make in the market. That’s is why today there is no one to make this kind scope any more. We are still learning how we can make this scope better. We will stay on top of the quality and try to make it better. We will have a new shipment coming in May. We have already improved quality. I hope the people who are loving to use this kind vintage style scope would support us and give us a little bit more credit for making this kind scope available again. If you still have any questions about this scope, please feel free to contact us. We will try our best to continue making the good quality 8X scope. Thank you for your support.



Best Regards,



Hi-Lux, Inc."

Well that explains things. Not really a replica

Regards,

Jim

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BTW on the subject does anyone have a photograph or at least a description of rubber bands might be used to replace the Unertl recoil absorber. I am having trouble picturing it.

Thanks,

Jim

[mike radford]

They are definitely trying hard to make a good product and making efforts to build a good reputation. Optics on mine are excellent. The definitely have the vintage sniper matches in mind for these scopes, as opposed to making a faithful copy. The scopes are OK with CMP matches and apparently that was a big goal.

[Bill Hollinger]

Jerry, are you able to post a picture so us non-knowing guys can understand what it is being discussed?