correct matching scope for my izhevsk 91/30

[mrtank]

The C in a cyrillic markings would be an S in romanized lettering. So what looks like 3C1217 may be a mark that is listed elsewhere as 3S1217, since I imagine not many of us have a cyrillic keyboard.

I use this for my Cyrillic needs.
I have never run across a single rifle with a number as part of the prefix, not on a ex-sniper or standard 91/30.
That is why I asked for a picture of the barrel shank, I it may be a partial stamp.

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[Tango89]

sorry for the dogey photo, I am technologically retarded

[Tango89]

also what's the infinity symbol above the soviet crest?

[mrtank]

also what's the infinity symbol above the soviet crest?

I have seen the lazy 8 on other rifles before, it is one of the marks that we don't know why they put it on the rifles. Very may be a mark put there during refurbishment.
That is deftly a nice crisp strike, interesting prefix. I personally wouldn't recommend spending the money on a WW2 scope for a standard 91/30. The Ukrainian reproduction PU scopes are quit nice, they function the same as the WW2 PU scopes and aren't as expensive. You can find them on Ebay. Other wise for a 1943 Izhevesk as far as I have seen the proper scope would be a Progress or a 1943 manufacture NKV Yoshkar-Ola.
Accumounts also sells a modern reproduction PU scope on ebay, it is also cheaper than a WW2 scope.

[Tango89]

hrm I all ready had the mount installed... hope I didn't destroy something...

I'll have a look at the ukrainian repro, I'm curious to see how this shoots.

also is the tolerance on the forend normal? I thought there was meant to be a gap, I was about to cork (found an article) it when I noticed this

[jjjxlr8]

All 3 of my genuine PU snipers ('43, '44 Izhevsk, '44 Tula) have a mismatch in length of the top handguard to stock. The '44 Izhevsk has a bigger gap than the other two, but I don't think there is any signifigance.

Here's the '44 Izhevsk...


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... very convincing replica

Very convincing to who?

[Tango89]

Very convincing to who?

haha no I'm not that way inclined, I'm a hoarder

I bought this rifle when I was 17 and only after an afghan deployment have the money to turn it into what I originally wanted

I was talking more about the gap between the stock and barrel, i've heard people cork it to improve accuracy but mine doesn't have a gap...

Thinking about buying this one

PU 91/30 scope for sniper Mosin Nagant 91/30 1943

Made by Factory #297 NKV Yoshkar-Ola in 1943, #4318485. It has the original rifle and scope serial number on the mount but I'd rather use a repro mount because I doubt the zero for the original rifle is the same as mine. Plus the scope looks in good nick and doesn't have any post war refurbishing marks

Also what process did the old russian gunsmiths use to polish the receiver? I'm considering if this is a worthwhile task...

[Tango89]

managed to take a better photo of the receiver, definitely looks like a "3C" starting

wish someone kept a record of what that "8" was

[jjjxlr8]

I wasn't trying to imply that you were intending to cheat someone. I just meant that serious (or even casual collectors like myself) who collect genuine PU snipers will be able to tell the difference. There are many small details that are unique to the snipers when compared to a regular infantry rifle.

Don't waste your time polishing the receiver and barrel shank. It will look better left as is, IMO.

Here's a '43 Izhevsk PU sniper for comparison. sorry for the poor photo, but you can see the smooth surface with no coarse turning marks.


Here's a picture of the scope serial number from the same rifle...

[Patrick Chadwick]

but I'd rather use a repro mount because I doubt the zero for the original rifle is the same as mine.

I notice that this scope is no longer listed (did you buy it?).
Anyway, as far as the zero is concerned, what makes you think that a repro is zeroed for your rifle?
They all have to be zeroed, if for no other reason than that you will probably not be using the same ammo as way back when. And will you be using a sling, or a sandbag? If you want to get the ultimate out of the rifle (which might well be sub-MOA accuracy at 100 yards) then these little things make a noticeable difference - even the way you hold it.

So it does not matter what scope you buy. You will have to zero it on your rifle, with your ammo, with you shooting.


Patrick