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    I just couldn't get them down to that size but here is a link I just made. The picture on the slide just has a dot only on it. That mean anything to anyone? Hope it works.. Mic

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    FWIW, I think it's "newbie" not NEEBIE.

    Nice carbine!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VOODOTHATIDO4U View Post
    The picture on the slide just has a dot only on it.
    Mic,
    I think you mean your Bolt, that dot is a punch mark ( a proof).
    Your Op slide is marked SG on the bottom for Saginaw Steering gear, Saginaw, MI.

    Look for a marking on the outer end-right lug of your bolt, or on, or under the smaller left lug.

    The Inland barrels have what we call the Heiroglphic (sp?) markings on the bottom flat. Thought to be shift, station, plant inspection.... etc markings.
    The I-I stamped on your barrels gas cylinder is made for a Inland and swaged on.
    AMB- Type III hammer original for a IBM.

    Need more pictures....... Trigger housing, Trigger, Sear, Front Sight.
    Full view of stock- Is it GI or a replacement?
    Look for markings in the leftside slingwell.

    The barrel would not have been original to a Underwood.
    I'd have to say........ so far so good. You've done very well for the $$ spent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABPOS View Post
    FWIW, I think it's "newbie" not NEEBIE.

    Nice carbine!!!!
    I was wondering what a neebie was

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    Or he just miss hit the key to the right of the W on his keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF4M1sicon View Post
    Or he just miss hit the key to the right of the W on his keyboard.
    He repeated the process in his first post though. Therefore I assumed he thought this was the way to spell it. Wait, maybe that's just a reposting automatically from the title.

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    Type III barrel band with bayonet lug should be a 'JMQ' which was a post-war upgrade. Your carbine has been to Italy for a stay of several decades. The FAT is the Italianicon arsenal mark. Don't bother trying to 'correct' it because it has an import mark, which pretty much rules out a collectible carbine. That stock was installed by armorers during a rebuild in Italy and most likely is well-fitted. These upgraded post-war rebuilds typically shoot great - all those new parts were considered improvements that resulted from field experience during the war. I think an import like this might sell for around $650, but my idea of value may not be current.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INLAND44 View Post
    think an import like this might sell for around $650, but my idea of value may not be current.
    Well that means I got it for a good price. I guess spelling on here is a big issue with some. Guess I must have found those school teachers I had forgotten. Maybe I will use spell check in the future?? Charlie, you requested some other pictures so your wish was granted. I agree with INAND44 after doing some checking on other sites he would be correct on the parts and stock. I just finished cleaning it up and posted some more pictures per the link at the bottom. They were alittle hard on the stocks and I'm not a big fan of the finish on the stock but I'm happy to get one without a big hole in my pocket afterwards. I'll leave it just the way I found it. I would say however with a cheap good looking stock and a change or two it would I believe fall in that collectable range somewhere.

    It's a great shooter I guarantee it! I put two thru it when I first got it home and then another 10 standing on the deck later. No problems feeding and someone did a very good job of sighting it in at between 50-75 yrds. Charlie hope the pictures will do. I forgot to take one of the recoil plate but it is marked with .u. on the side. Either way, I'm as happy as any new owner of their first carbine. Thanks for the comments on the carbine too. Mic
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    $ breakdown for current parts

    Here's Some Ballpark Values:
    All are + or -

    SG Flat Bolt $100
    SG Op Slide $100
    So far unknown trigger housing, if USGI and stripped: $75
    Import marked Inland barrel $150
    U marked 15rd Mag $25
    Underwood 4 mil receiver $225
    Underwood recoil plate $20
    Buttplate Saginaw or a late Springfield Armory replacement with the dot missing at the 5 'o clock position $15
    M2 Potbelly birch stock $55
    4 Rivet birch hand guard $25
    Bayo Band $20

    Total: $ 810.00

    Knowing what type of frt sight, hammer, trigger and sear would add more value.
    Smaller items like the 30rd magcatch, rotary safety, Adj rear sight, springs, hammer strut and slide spring guide...etc would add a bit more.
    Almost forgot about the bolt internals... Extractor, firing pin..etc. You'd be surprised how fast these parts can add up.

    Mic,
    Go to the Carbine Club in this link, about 3/4 of the way down you'll find a 'Data Sheet' you can print off and fill in.
    Very handy sheet to get familiar with the types of parts you have on your carbine. You can learn a lot from the Data Sheet.
    The Carbine Club - A CMP Affiliated Organization

    Any carbine books yet?
    A good starter is the U.S. M1icon Carbines Wartime Production by Craig Riesch. I think it's in it's 7th edition now. There are some errors, but again a great starter book.
    Best is the book by MR. Larry Ruth, WarBaby.

    Your stock is birch, called a Type V (Potbelly) by collectors. They were bulked up to stand up to the beating from full auto use. Internal changes milled to have room for the select fire parts. I still wonder if it's a US made stock. One made by Overton for the post WWII programs.
    Can you find any markings in the left side slingwell?
    It sure cleaned up very nice

    Congrats,
    Charlie-painter777

    P.S. Still would like to know who made your trigger housing and frt sight.

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