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Originally Posted by
John Sukey
Atheiests are like radical muslims, they whine because they can't get everyone to believe in their version of the world.
I tend to think it is the other way 'round, John.
I don't remember anywhere in history where 'athiests'
went out into the world converting the masses, whether they
wanted converting or not!
malcolm
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03-05-2009 04:59 PM
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It is time for the "YES's" in the survey to shut up and sit down......
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What God means
The phrase "In God We Trust" I believe is often misunderstood. The word God in this instance does not apply to just one God, it stands for all of the different Gods of the many religions that make up this great country. No matter what you may call your personal God, he is still God!
Now correct me if I'm wrong (and I know you old CSP
members will
) but the Constitution does not say anything about separation of church and state, it says there shall be no state sponsored religion. The idea of separation of church and state comes from Thomas Jefferson and the Federalist papers.
So God in this instance is used as a general term, there is no separation of church and state in the Constitution, and according to this poll 86% of us support "In God We Trust". All that leaves is the atheists, the agnostics, and the current administration that are offended by it. If the word God being connected to the government in any way offends them, than their taking offense to it offends me and 86% of the country!!!! GET OVER IT!!!
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Originally Posted by
MCook
I don't remember anywhere in history where 'athiests'
went out into the world converting the masses, whether they
wanted converting or not!
Well, Communists. Atheism is an integral part of Marxism. Both Marx and his avid follower, Lenin, certainly urged their followers to convert the world ("liberate" in Marxist dialectics terminology). Marxists today, atheists all, continue to engage in "missionary programs", not with a cross but with machineguns, bombs, and nuclear weapons.
Self-styled "intellectual" Marxists continue hold sway in our universities, where they work to twist the minds of susceptible young people.
Marxists in the news and entertainment fields applaud and cover up for fellow Marxists who kill thousands to promote "liberation." If those are not attempts at "converting the masses" I don't know what they are.
In their zeal to destroy religion, primarily the Catholic religion, the Marxists, ironically, came close to duplicating it. The religious Holy Trinity of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit became Marx the Father, Lenin the Son, and Engels the Holy Spirit. The entire Communist system is a sort of satanic parody of the Catholic religion. But the Catholic church has no "Berlin wall"; disaffected Catholics can leave, unlike the inhabitants of Marxist, atheistic paradises.
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I tend to think it is the other way 'round, John.
I don't remember anywhere in history where 'athiests'
went out into the world converting the masses, whether they
wanted converting or not!
malcolm
You don't? You mean Madeline Murry O'Hare DIDN'T go to Court at the drop of a hat to impose her vanishingly small minority opinion of religion on the overwhelming majority? Compared to her....the Crusades were penny-ante stuff!
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I have no problem with the motto and if it wasn't a total waste of time on any MSN poll I would have voted to keep it.
The Repbublic existed nearly 80 years before the motto was put on money. On the old seated liberty dollar it had to be squeezed in and does look a little funny on those coins with the motto. Theodore Roosevelt re did the coinage during his term because he thought the older coins unnattractive. When he did he tried to take the motto off saying he didn't believe in having the name of God on money. A few coins were actually minted without the motto before a storm of protest had it put back on. Obviously those few gold coins are very collectable.
Heck, "one nation under God" wasn't inserted in the Pledge of Alliegence until after World War 2.
Its a tempest in a tea pot. Most folks like the motto and I think It'll be around until long after after all of us are dead and gone