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    Nobody was questioning anyones physical and morale stature. The fact was made that the scope looks a little far back and even for an amature as I am it does.
    The absolute fact was that a retired veteran armorer whose trade was supplying elite soldiers (snipers)with the tools they need to do their life and death duties has made a legitimate statement. If someone states the term "he wrote the book on that",well he did. Veterans,skilled craftsmen and serious collectors deserve a little more respect. These are the members who at the drop of a hat will assist you with any Milsurp issue. When a member sees a picture or reads a statement ,they want to know the hows and whys for the benefit of all in the forum. The people in the know ask the hard questions for those of us that either don't know or have not enough experience to ask. We appreciate that! The statement was not about recoil it was about using the butt stock effectively with relation to the scope and your line of sight. Enfield sniper rifles have a cheek piece for a reason.

    The restoration is very nice,sorry to detract from the oringinal post. Takes a tonne of work to get them back from the brink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryEAL View Post
    Nobody was questioning anyones physical and morale stature. The fact was made that the scope looks a little far back and even for an amature as I am it does.
    The absolute fact was that a retired veteran armorer whose trade was supplying elite soldiers (snipers)with the tools they need to do their life and death duties in a force that still regularly gets in to a dust up has made a legitimate statement. When someone says the term "he wrote the book on that",well he did. Veterans,skilled craftsmen and serious collectors deserve a little more respect who at the drop of a hat will assist you with any Milsurp issue. When a member sees a picture or reads a statement ,they want to know the hows and whys for the benefit of all in the forum. The people in the know ask the hard questions for those of us that either don't know or have not enough experience to ask at the risk of sounding stupid. We appreciate that! The statement was not about recoil it was about using the butt stock effectively with relation to the scope and your line of sight. Enfield sniper rifles have a cheek piece for a reason.
    Ill say again you obviously did not read the post or look at the end of the rifle with a tottaly plainly shown 2 inch recoil pad for eye relief, so you asked a pretty dmb ? to me is all, and enfields ,do not kick hard lol. they are pansies compared to most all other mil-surp and commercial bolt rifles.And i am not going to drill holes in my 55 uf irish contract rifle for a wooden cheek piece man that would be a ludicrus thing to do to a fine mint condition rifle. lol @ wrote the book , its not a sniper model i just scoped it man. Just trying to help a guy asked me a ? on how to mount one. You asked some head scratching ?s on that 1 my friend srry , have to lol at that 1. And if i needed CHEEK Piece ,i would not drill holes in a very rare rifle i would get a lace on one , i do not need it ,works fine as is. So again i must lol at the entire post you made . srry but thats how i see it. The pad is plainly visible ,that should have answered that ? by looking at it.And i like that vintage german scope, it was very expensive and rare and i like the african big game hunter from back in the day deco look it has, so i just added a 2 inch pad & off to range i went and have been useing it for yrs now.pachmeyer pad dude.works just fine. DOES NOT ALTER my mint 55 uf rifle.Drill holes in it? thats crazy. lets just agree to disagree and when the weather breaks ill make a video and let the shooting do the talking.
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    You do know an L42 is chambered in 7.62 NATO, not .303.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mil-surp60 View Post
    Well maybe if you READ my entire post and looked at the pics you would see it has a 2 inch removable recoil pad

    In support of Peter's fair comment, it must be noted that the post makes no mention of "2 inch ..." and the photo does not show the entire assembly, cutting off before the end.

    Looking carefully at the photos, it seems to me that if the front ring was attached to the scope behind the turrets, this would permit the rear ring to be mounted two notches further forward on the rail, and this would remove the large overhang of the scope to the rear. How about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    In support of Peter's fair comment, it must be noted that the post makes no mention of "2 inch ..." and the photo does not show the entire assembly, cutting off before the end.

    Looking carefully at the photos, it seems to me that if the front ring was attached to the scope behind the turrets, this would permit the rear ring to be mounted two notches further forward on the rail, and this would remove the large overhang of the scope to the rear. How about it?
    Tried that not enough room to move it anymore forwardd, i tried, Rings wont fit the pad makes it work and i did mention the pad at bottom of thread very plainly.And it shoots sub 1.58 or smaller moa at 150 meters , im good with that , someday ill find a german rifle for that scope and replace it , till then the pad works just fine or someday ill find correct rings that fit that scope that are thinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsimmons View Post
    You do know an L42 is chambered in 7.62 NATO, not .303.
    Of course i know why i said it prolly hit him in head , my 308 has much stouter recoil than any 303 i ever shot in over 40 yrs but my no5 jungle model will rattle ya teeth with full power loads i download em with 130 grainers to keep from beating my shoulder to death, now those i will admit kick, full size enfields i have done the mad minute drill with , no pad , barely felt it, @ knob creek ky milsurp rifle comps . that Compared to my no5 shirley , its a beast on recoil to fire with full house loads, i only did it a few times till i said enough of this and starting useing smaller bullets 130-150gr with reduced charges, I cannot imagine those tiny burmese guerrila fighters firing those no5s all day ,they were some tough cookies for sure back then , recoil from my no 5 is horrendous with full power loaded hvy bullet rounds. from my number4 MK2, pansie recoil wise. look at the bottom of my first quote with pics clearly says this, ------------- the recoil pad is only because i have very long arms and needed more room for scope without altering rifle,works great for me.Enfields not accurate? <direct quote from bottom of my original post so you guys are not reading the entire post or do not comprehend what ya read. cLEARLY STATES THE PAD IS FOR EYE RELIEF. and THE VERY LAST PIC IN THE LINE CLEARLY SHOWS THE SLIP ON RECOIL PAD__________ WRONG. Why i mentioned why i had it on there. its plainly visible. go look at last pic in the line ,if you cannot see the pad get some better glasses.
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    Your restoration looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mil-surp60 View Post
    you guys are not reading the entire post
    That's because your posts are very hard to follow. Makes them hard to read. Minimum capitals, punctuation or sentence structure...and this from an old guy...
    Regards, Jim

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    Boy Jim, you are right. Repetitive, badly worded and, at best, poor sentence structure.

    Sorry mil-surp60, but that is the way it is. Are you posting from a cell phone? That could explain some of the problem.....

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    Yep, I'll second that. Spellings all over the place, no punctuation so we just can't make head nor tail of where something ends and another sentence starts. No capital letters. As for pure and simple courtesy usually associated with this forum, well, there ain't none of that neither! There...., said my bit too!

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