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    The Valkyrie Arms is not bad compared to this!! British WWII De Lisle Commando Carbine Display Gun ima-usa.com

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    Valkyrie at least functions as the original...doesn't it? They are made duplicate?
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    Great picture. Thanks Great to see any pictures of a De Lisle !

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    The De Lisle copy that I have manufactured is an exact copy of the original. It takes me about 2 1/2 weeks to build each rifle. In the end you get what you pay for. The Valkyrie arms version is not a very good copy and I have not heard very good things about the company. I am not sure that it is even in business at the moment. For a custom built rifle if you are a collector and want an example of the De Lisle you will not be disappointed. It is also a heck of a lot of fun to shoot I have many high end sniper rifles in my inventory that are well over the $ 8000 dollar range especially for my 50 cals. I guess in the end if it is not for you then it is not for you

    Just to clarify, the firearm that is being offered here has a dummy shroud around a full length barrel that is in no way a suppressor or a suppressed firearm under Canadianicon Law. There is no reduction in the sound of the 45 cartridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield 111 View Post
    Just to clarify, the firearm that is being offered here has a dummy shroud around a full length barrel that is in no way a suppressor or a suppressed firearm under Canadian Law. There is no reduction in the sound of the 45 cartridge.
    Then why are we even discussing the Delisle? They can't be produced for consumption in Canadaicon and I'll be a dollar you can't send them to the US...too expensive for a dummy gun.
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    Hi Enfield 111
    Just a quick question about the barrel for your rifle. Did you machine any of the bolt channel out for the barrel when you set it back for the 45ACP or just make it the same diameter as the bolt channel?

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    According to David Howroyd, it was this single operation (see thread 56) that caused the problems that made each DeLisle a virtual one-off. The bodies were all used to the point of being worn out (that's why they were suitable for the low power round of course) and from different manufacturers so there really was no 'standard' or datum to work from. As for the supposed accuracy of then - at fanciful ranges and......... Someone said that mysterious aura surrounding them is the only thing that ensures that they deserve a place in firearms folklore

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    With only a hundred odd examples made, production was too low to allow any sort of series manufacture to be established. Lots of individual fitting. The Charlton, with what, 1200? examples would have required much more of an organized approach to production.

    desky85 - the receiver must be bored out from the front. The diameter of the boltway is far too small to allow a .45 barrel to be installed. No doubt there are many options for how the receiver may be bored out. One method that works is to install a mandrel in the rear of the receiver which may be chucked in the lathe. A bushing is threaded into the receiver ring, projecting out far enough to be supported in the steady rest. The axis of the receiver is aligned with the axis of the lathe. The receiver may be then drilled and bored out to the desired diameter. When the bolt is shortened, and the bolthead refitted, the length of the bolt body and timing of the bolthead are related. This affects how far the receiver is bored out to accept the extended barrel.

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    Hi Jim

    Not sure why you say the copy I am making is not for consumption in Canadaicon. A De Lisle without a suppressor is still a functional De Lisle just no noise reduction. It will be a non-restricted gun so any collector with a PAL can own and shoot and a cool part of the Britishicon Commando history and a great addition to anyone with a serious Enfield collection.

    Desky85 the No1 Mk 3 receiver is bored out to accept the 45 barrel and the bolt is shortened accordingly.

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    That seems like a lot of work. Subsonic 300 AAC Blackout - 7.62×35mm has about the same bullet weight as .45 ACP. It would be a fairly simple job to shorten and re-chamber a 7.62x51mm barrel to 7.62×35mm.

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