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Ridolpho No. 5 Accuracy 12-24-2015, 04:13 PM
browningautorifle I never had any problems, but... 12-24-2015, 04:14 PM
martins8589 I had a No5 that I had bought... 12-25-2015, 09:25 AM
Ridolpho BAR: I enjoy firing mine... 12-24-2015, 07:18 PM
villiers Mine´s still more accurate... 12-25-2015, 05:35 AM
Son I have no accuracy trouble... 12-25-2015, 06:20 AM
Ridolpho Son: Thanks for the comments.... 12-25-2015, 02:05 PM
Littlejohn Haven't fired mine enough to... 12-25-2015, 04:32 PM
Parashooter Wandering zero test - 12-25-2015, 08:25 PM
CINDERS Even a center mass hold on an... 12-25-2015, 10:03 PM
Bruce_in_Oz If you are carrying a No5,... 01-12-2016, 05:46 AM
303carbine I have a new to me 1946... 01-09-2016, 09:48 PM
villiers I think the `wandering zero´... 01-10-2016, 04:57 AM
Ridolpho To me "wandering zero" would... 01-10-2016, 10:29 AM
Parashooter I apologize for any confusion... 01-10-2016, 02:30 PM
Ridolpho Parashooter- My mistake.... 01-10-2016, 02:46 PM
303carbine I know the ten targets... 01-31-2016, 09:55 PM
Peter Laidler I was thinking the same... 01-10-2016, 06:11 AM
Seaspriter Wandering Zero 01-10-2016, 11:48 AM
Peter Laidler I know it's a glib point... 01-10-2016, 11:51 AM
Ridolpho Thanks Peter. Can you explain... 01-10-2016, 01:15 PM
villiers It could also be a problem if... 01-10-2016, 12:43 PM
Peter Laidler In simple non engineering... 01-10-2016, 01:39 PM
Strangely Brown I've often wondered that had... 01-10-2016, 03:25 PM
Frederick303 As a competitive shooter I... 01-10-2016, 05:23 PM
Bindi2 The NATO 5.56 is not a very... 01-10-2016, 07:02 PM
Gil Boyd Sadly the 5.56mm change... 01-11-2016, 03:41 AM
Peter Laidler In REAL life, the mechanical... 01-11-2016, 05:28 AM
Gil Boyd It goes much deeper even than... 01-11-2016, 05:58 AM
WNO1958 No.5 Wandering Zero 01-11-2016, 08:48 AM
Peter Laidler It baffled the Army... 01-11-2016, 09:23 AM
Frederick303 Capt. Laidler. Looking at... 01-11-2016, 09:49 AM
Peter Laidler You have it in one. In my... 01-11-2016, 10:29 AM
Gil Boyd 7.62 everytime agree totally... 01-11-2016, 12:13 PM
blurrededge Wasn't the EM2 also... 01-11-2016, 02:32 PM
Peter Laidler But a 7mm variant can be... 01-11-2016, 02:58 PM
Sentryduty In the discussion of 7.62mm... 01-11-2016, 05:40 PM
Seaspriter Thanks Darren for your very... 01-11-2016, 09:23 PM
Frederick303 Well......... as likely the... 01-12-2016, 12:18 AM
Gil Boyd We don't go into a Rugby... 01-12-2016, 03:45 AM
Gil Boyd At a different time, the No5... 01-12-2016, 05:55 AM
villiers As a No. 5 owner here in... 01-13-2016, 05:31 AM
Peter Laidler If we're going to fight in... 01-13-2016, 09:24 AM
Gil Boyd Now proudly issued to every... 01-13-2016, 09:44 AM
Seaspriter As Darren has alluded,... 01-13-2016, 07:43 PM
Frederick303 Because of the superior BC of... 01-14-2016, 12:59 AM
Sentryduty Very true, and the issue of... 01-15-2016, 06:36 PM
No.6 I have always wondered... 01-27-2016, 04:44 PM
Strangely Brown I know this thread started... 01-13-2016, 06:34 PM
Sentryduty Looking the "coles notes" of... 01-13-2016, 07:01 PM
Peter Laidler Your test with a No6 v the... 01-27-2016, 05:31 PM
No.6 Peter, Absolutely, but I... 01-27-2016, 06:36 PM
Peter Laidler What will happen if you... 01-28-2016, 04:11 AM
CINDERS Well Gil bit like Oz we have... 01-28-2016, 05:31 AM
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    Because of the superior BC of the .280/30, the 7mm entered the transonic region (1226 fps) at around 780 yards, vs. 875~885 yards for the 7.62 NATO cartridge. 7.62 NATO out of a G3 is more like ~830 yards.

    Once in the transonic region US M80 ball is horrible (fan shaped groups), whereas the L2A2 and Australianicon F4 seem to do quite well, so how well the .280 did in this region would depend on the bullet shape, specifically the boattail angel and the twist rate. But if it did not show the instability some bullets show to side winds, then the superior BC would mean final velocity at 1100 yards between the 7.62 and .280 would not be all that far apart.

    As I said my regard came when playing with low recoil 7.62 NATO, the recoil level of the .280/30 just seems to be sort of a sweet spot. Along with the lower peak pressures it seems to me that this cartridge had some real potential, lost because the US just could not drop the 30-06 ballistics and so had to redesign the 1904 7.62 Mauser cartridge.

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