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L.S.A. .22
Hello,
I have a London small arms co ltd .22 rifle with a Parker rifled barrel and volley sights serial number is 102. Would it be a shtle or smle?
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Tedd
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02-19-2017 05:06 PM
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Need pics Tedd, some of these .22's went through that many changes as .303 then converted to .22, A Lee Enfield is probably one of the greenest or recyclable rifles there is regarding the conversions throughout its life, plus it depends when it was converted, pics of the butt socket will normally reveal most of the history.
IIRC it would of been a SMLE Mk 11 Cd 11*Cd
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Originally Posted by
tedd
Would it be a shtle or smle?
Regards
Tedd
ShtLE & SMLE mean the same thing.
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Does it have a charger bridge?
Is the safety on the left side of the action or the right side of the cocking piece?
Probably most importantly, what are the markings on the wrist? It will probably have the original markings on the rhs and the markings related to the conversion on the left. (If it was a military conversion)
A couple of photos would get you your answer very quickly.
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Originally Posted by
mike1967
FFS dont confuse people, ShtLE means a Short, (Magazine) Lee Enfield, SMLE means Short, Magazine Lee Enfield, the same thing
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Some more details on rifle, Has safety on left side, only markings on wrist is L.S.A. Co. Ld on the right hand side, has a magazine cut off, volley sights, has a bridge and AGP Parker Rifled stamped around the muzzle also there are the entwined letters TRL on the flat top of the knoxform. I hope to get the woodwork stripped of later this week to check for markings underneath.
Dale
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Originally Posted by
tedd
Some more details on rifle, Has safety on left side, only markings on wrist is L.S.A. Co. Ld on the right hand side, has a magazine cut off, volley sights, has a bridge and AGP Parker Rifled stamped around the muzzle also there are the entwined letters TRL on the flat top of the knoxform. I hope to get the woodwork stripped of later this week to check for markings underneath.
Dale
Is there a crown along with L.S.A Co Ld ?
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If there is nothing else on the wrist besides "LSA Co Ld", then it is likely a commercial (aka Lee-Speed) model, meaning that it was manufactured for private sale--either as a .22 or was converted later to .22. The AGP Parker rifling marks would indicate the latter. The marking you describe on the knox could be the L.R. Tippins mark. Sounds like this could be a rarity.
Photos will tell all.
I am eager to see any markings underneath the wood---this will be very important for my research project.
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Researching Lee Speeds and all commercial Lee Enfields. If you have data to share or questions, please send me a PM.
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