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Originally Posted by
Jet Fixer
I have heard that you can neck size with a FL die.
You're just not FL sizing. Just turn the die out so the neck is done, probably half way or a bit more. You'll see how it goes by checking and then tightening a bit, until you have most of the neck but no case wall. Lube the whole thing just in case.
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02-11-2021 03:12 PM
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If you only have one Type 99 then neck size for sure. Turn your sizing die back maybe 1/2 turn to a full turn. Try it slowly to find the beat setting. I neck size all of my .30-40 brass.
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Many Type -99 rifles have enough swell at the base and even the shoulder and the dies are so small to begin with a FL die turned out will still size the case body . A big 7.62x54r die will not touch anything but the neck with 7.7 cases .
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Neck sizing using a FL sizing die
This is how I neck size. I rub Imperial Die Wax on the neck. I raise my case and screw the FL die down until it contacts the case, then lower the die down a little and size a part of the neck. I can see the wax being rubbed off. I repeat the same procedure until the neck is sized almost to the shoulder. Then, I lock the FL die in place.
The diameter of my 7.7 Arisaka fireformed brass is too wide for the current RCBS FL dies I am using. Notice the photo of a resized 30-06 military case before I shortened the neck and a fireformed case. Here, I use a custom Lee 7.7 Arisaka collet die. It works well but I am considering having a custom FL die cut to resize brass to match the chamber.Attachment 115100
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Bench Report
Here is some information that outlines my journey so far with my T99 Arisaka ( Nagoya ).
As mentioned in an earlier posted, I started with Speer -150 bullets with 4895. If I didn't come across this attached table in Ken Waters' Petload book, I might have tried IMR 4320 because the .303 Enfield crowd has good luck with it. Using this table and the attached article, I chose Reloader 15 and 19.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...bers-tell-all/
Attachment 115101
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Range Report 1
I am not including my ladder test photos. Here is the most promising load I have so far using a Hornady 174gr FMJBT, Norma Brass, WLR, and 45.3gr R15. Notice Ken Waters' 45.2gr N203/ R15 petload.
Attachment 115102
The three hit cluster near the fore-end of the rifle is at 200 yards and the cluster near the trigger guard are groups at 100 yard. I'll try and do better and avoid flyers next time.
I examine my cartridges for concentricity too.
Attachment 115103
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Originally Posted by
bob q
A big 7.62x54r die will not touch anything but the neck with 7.7 cases .
Way better idea and easy to find dies.
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7.62x54r die idea
I like this idea too for just neck sizing. I wonder what runout you would get. And, I wonder if the die will still clear a fireformed Arisaka case. Can someone send me the resized outside diameter of the 7.62x54r case near the neck. I'd like to compare that to my fireformed case.
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I'm thinking that if you use the 7.62x54r FL sizing die to resize the neck, you have a neck sized for .309" bullet and not a .311 or .312. A neck expander will need to be used. For my cast .3125"lead bullets, an option might be a 32 caliber expander for a pistol die that measures .312"-.314". I'll sand the plug to the proper diameter.
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Originally Posted by
BJung
a neck sized for .309" bullet and not a .311 or .312.
Expander balls in all sizes are available, if you're using RCBS dies that is. Just change it...
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