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CINDERS Interesting 02-11-2023, 03:45 AM
Bindi2 Cinders That to me is not a... 02-11-2023, 06:53 AM
Alan de Enfield Bullet weight NOT 174 grains ? 02-11-2023, 06:55 AM
hayboy Regarding the bullet weight... 02-11-2023, 07:08 AM
Alan de Enfield By 1915 (if not earlier) the... 02-11-2023, 07:10 AM
CINDERS Yes your on the money its to... 02-11-2023, 09:24 AM
Alan de Enfield Added to which, once it... 02-11-2023, 09:33 AM
Bruce_in_Oz Note the aluminium inner... 02-22-2023, 02:54 AM
CINDERS Alan ages ago I posted a pic... 02-11-2023, 10:01 AM
Alan de Enfield Interesting indeed - If I... 02-11-2023, 10:48 AM
Surpmil Blown up a bit it looks like... 02-11-2023, 07:20 PM
Daan Kemp Bit more to that round. ... 02-11-2023, 11:19 AM
Bindi2 I have another oddity on my... 02-11-2023, 06:30 PM
CINDERS I reckon Surpmil your right,... 02-12-2023, 01:54 AM
Alan de Enfield In the UK every single round... 02-12-2023, 04:02 AM
Lee Enfield Notice the overhead belt... 02-12-2023, 11:30 AM
Alan de Enfield We have a small engineering... 02-12-2023, 05:10 PM
CINDERS In the late 60's on school... 02-14-2023, 09:09 AM
Surpmil Sounds like your uncle had a... 02-17-2023, 12:30 PM
green Back to OP The original... 02-20-2023, 11:51 AM
CINDERS Yeah Green the Drawing from... 02-21-2023, 09:51 AM
Alan de Enfield Here are the comparisons of... 02-21-2023, 06:32 PM
CINDERS So Bruce the Mk8 Z'eds were... 02-23-2023, 10:09 AM
Alan de Enfield MK8s were 'primarily' used... 02-23-2023, 10:43 AM
browningautorifle You meant Brens? 02-23-2023, 11:10 AM
Alan de Enfield OOOOPs ! Yes Should have... 02-23-2023, 03:45 PM
Bruce_in_Oz I was under the impression... 02-24-2023, 08:18 PM
Daan Kemp Having shot thousands of... 02-24-2023, 10:51 PM
Alan de Enfield Try it with a No5 at dusk it... 02-25-2023, 03:47 AM
ColinA Been there, done that! ;)... 02-28-2023, 03:17 AM
Alan de Enfield Indeed and it is recognised... 02-25-2023, 04:00 AM
CINDERS Is this why some WRA rounds... 02-25-2023, 10:03 AM
browningautorifle That is exactly it. There... 02-25-2023, 07:24 PM
butlersrangers The 1909 graphic, posted by... 02-26-2023, 10:14 AM
CINDERS Interesting pick up... 02-27-2023, 09:23 AM
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    I was under the impression that Mk 7 Z started out in the aerial gunnery biz, Cordite has a well-earned reputation of muzzle flash, granulated Nitro-cellulose, less so. A tail-gunner in a 4-gun Lancaster turret would be dazzled by his own muzzle-flash if "standard" Cordite ammo were used. I also suspect that the "Z" used in Mk 8 Z was a bit slower-burning than Cordite; better for use with marginally heavier bullets in longer MG barrels.

    In the First Great Unpleasantness, US factories NEVER used "Cordite to fill .303 ammo for Britainicon,instead, they used the same type of stuff they used in their "sporting' ammo in that cartridge.. The Canadians made BOTH styles of ammo; Mercuric-primed, Cordite-fueled stuff at the "government" facilities and Boxer-primed, NC powder-fueled at "commercial" plants.

    US factories also churned out vast amounts of 7.62 x 54R and 8mm "Lebel" in WW1. As long as it was reliable and had similar ballistic behaviour, it was acceptable. The subtleties of variations possibly affecting performance or whatever, were irrelevant.

    Some of that WW1-vintage, US made 7.62 x 54R ammo made it to Oz in the late 1970s. Good stuff, especially in Tokarevs. which, in the "good old days' were more common here than Mosin Nagants.

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