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    Good job! Looks pretty good! Good luck on making ammo! I’m in the process of moving . Won’t have any stuff for reloading available for a couple months. I look forward to your shooting progress!



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    Looks awesome! I just received a Vetterli from RTI as well but one of the 6.5 conversions. I am having a hard time finding ammo and have not learned how to reload my own yet but that time may be upon me to learn lol.

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    If you can see your way to build your own ammo, the 10.4x47r is the better if the two. The 6.5 conversions are considered marginal for shooting with factory ie military ammo.



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    The 6.5's tend to go boom and not in a good way. C&R Arsenal blew two of them up. Lots of excuses why but I'm not firing mine. They were considered emergency use when made and pawned off on colonial troops after WWI was over.

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    Can I get your permission to use a photo of your TS carbine in an article I'm preparing? It will be credited in any manner you desire.

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    C&R broke two by using the wrong bullets and loads in their handloads . They broke them by not knowing what they were doing , not the rifles fault .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob q View Post
    C&R broke two by using the wrong bullets and loads in their handloads . They broke them by not knowing what they were doing , not the rifles fault .
    So do you think standard PPU 139 grain FMJ factory loads are safe to shoot in the 6.5 Vetterli Carcano conversions?



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    I have zero desire to fire mine. I have no need to fire it. I have 9 other actual Carcano's I could shoot first before this on. I have it for my collection but that's all.

    If I had a major boating accident, lost the 9 Carcano's along with every other firearm I own, and society collapsed, and I had only the 6.5 conversion and a box of ammo and I needed to hunt deer with it I would.

    It's a risk vs reward type of thing. Take a needless chance to injure a hand or eye or starve to death? Lots of others are perfectly willing to do the first, I'm not.

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    I had a single shot Vetterli back in about 1985/86 and used to shoot it regularly with ammo I had to make from scratch. I used Winchester 348 cases cut at the shoulder and made into a pyrodex blank, loaded a soft cast lead 240 gr 429 bullet over it. Just did it separate loading and it shot fine. At 200yds it could stay in about twelve inch square.
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