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[micmacman]

nato only wanted Crimea because its value as a port in the region , its a port with accessibility year round, Putin took Crimea to prevent it from becoming under control by adversarial forces , without access to Crimeas port Russia could have been choked once their ports froze over in the harsh winters , im no condoning any of it , simply stating object fully that all these actions by Putin were to secure his countries sovereignty and welfare , nothing no other country would not do , we have been bombarded with a spoon fed narrative , Putin bad , but the fact is the US and Nato have created all the scenarios that instigated Putins responses/actions , its the equivalent to punching someone in the berries when no one is looking and then pointing a finger when they get angry about it and saying look at the crazy tyrant

its all about perception and the narrative the government wishes that media to push , im First Nation , my Tribal grounds are in Quebec , so i have half the Rez that are family in one way or another , in Canada its all about CNN , so you can imagine the Narrative they push and as a result i am floored to hear what nonsense pours from family members mouth , they have that narrative crammed down their throats 24/7 and have so for so long they believe it to be true

my last visit we had a discussion , every thing they said i was able to disprove with reference , and even with proof staring them in the face they refused to believe the facts , yes , its a slow process of brain manipulation , they literally believe to this day Trump colluded with Russia , even though Clintons campaign lawyer under oath in a court of law testified they knew it was fake and she released it anyway citing they did not believe he would win , onece he lost they would simply let the story die in the excitement of her winning

its a chess match , sure Putin is a despicable human being , doesnt automatically mean he constructed all of it or s wrong though

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again , Ukrain dammed the Crimea river cutting off water to the intire country , those people only have access to fresh water for 4 hours a day , Russia diplomatically pleaded with Ukraine to restore the flow of the river , and was met with outright refusal , to put it in perspective , if you were to ask which country was more honest , Russia or Ukraine , Russia wins every time , thats who Obama put Biden in charge of , Ukraine and we are wondering if Biden abused the office of VEEP for perisomal wealth ? lol , thats like asking if Paris Hilton has someone who washers her dogs butt hole 3 times a day

[Flying10uk]

you can not believe a single word that the media presents on Russia , China , or Ukraine , they present a narrative that will keep the drone citizens satisfied that they are doing the right thing by supporting that war , all the while people like Biden and Zelinski are filling their personal coffers ,ive been against the US support of that war from Day one , you must pick your battles , cant get involved in everything

the fact is Bidens dirty dealings are why the US supports that , hes compromised , he was presented a ultimatum , either throw billions at us and they both get richer or they expose all his corruption while he was VP to Curious George and in charge of Ukraine affairs

facts are , the conditions in Ukraine were so bad for most that half the country wanted to annex back into Russia ,Putin exhausted all diplomatic avenues to get Ukraine to restore flow of the Crimea River to Crimea , a river that supplies 90% of the countries water and is under Russia regardless of by the means , Ukraine built the dam , and shut off all water , Crimean's have access to drinking water for 4 hours a day , for a decade or more

then there is the fact that Ukraine border is only 500 KM from Moscow , and Nato was entertaining induction of Ukraine into Nato which is in direct violation of their treaty with Russia to not advance Nato countries any further East towards Russia , instead the were proposing not only that but worse , a country that actually bordered Russia and was 500 Km from its capital , thats like Russia putting a base 500 miles into Mexico from the border , remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? how is this any different what Nato was proposing , like it or not , Putin is doing what is necessary to ensure the security of his country , this was 100% instigated by Nato , Ukraine , and the US , is Putin a good guy? no , but in this instance he is in the right , and Nato and the US government will paint you every picture to make it seem like Putin is the bad guy in this , and they are using the media to spoon feed you this , which leads to another whole conversation

just keep in mind , Ukraine was dubbed " the most corrupt government in the world" , thats saying something given the fact Africa is part of said world , any coincidence Biden is so cozy with Ukraine and Billions of our tax dollars have gone there with zero provisions to accountability where those funds end up? poof gone

you MUST ask yourself if Ukraine is such a dishonest and disgusting country why would Nato wish to bring them in the fold renegging on their agreement with Russia , its been a series of poke in putins eye after another , everyone said no way he invades Ukraine , i was saying you were an idiot for believing he will not , he has a bafoon in the white house , he has China and Iran backing him , he has Saudia Arabia about to ditch the dollar and move to Chinese backed currency , it was now or never

You are entitled to your opinion.

Some of us here are lucky enough to own a brain of our own and don't rely on everything being "spoon-fed" to us by the media.

If Russia was ever to prevail in Ukraine one should expect WW3 because the aggressor is never satisfied, they always want more.

I am expecting Ukraine to make significant gains in the not too distant future.

Victory and Glory to Ukraine!

[Bob Womack]

Alright everyone. We've ventured far enough into politics, which forbidden by the forum rules, and now we see why the rule exists. We'll just stop here.

Bob