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    Personal thoughts -->> 1962
    Why
    1st look at the left edge of the 6, straight not indent like an 8 has.
    2nd upper right of the 6 has a horizonal line, with extra paint going to the top of the bottom circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42rocker View Post
    extra paint going to the top of the bottom circle.
    Maybe...it does look like it's splotched.
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    Looks like 1982 to me, albeit a little amateurishly applied.

    It's really annoying when the seller messes up and you don't end up getting what you thought you were going to get.

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    According to two different sources, production ceased in 1976. So that makes it 1962 by default. It doesn’t make sense for it to have been made 4 years after its replacement was issued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    According to two different sources, production ceased in 1976. So that makes it 1962 by default. It doesn’t make sense for it to have been made 4 years after its replacement was issued.
    No but it still looks like 1982 to me, however, I accept that some may read it as 1962.
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    "Messel" would suggest to me Germanyicon, not France. Perhaps what we are looking at is a West German helmet shell with a Frenchicon liner?

    Annoying if it's a mismatch.

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    Messei is a town in Normandy. I don't believe the Germans ever used the Frenchicon M51.

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    Your seeing an "I", but I'm seeing an "L". Messel is in Germanyicon.

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    OK but seriously, not sure how you are seeing a L.

    These are capital letters, there is no leg for an L which makes it an I

    Germanyicon did not use M51 helmets, they had their own helmets which makes this Frenchicon

    Messei is in France

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    there is no leg for an L
    That's the thing you see, there is a leg for an "L" but only feint. (This may be harder to see on cheap laptops.)

    The "8" is fairly obviously an "8" and I'm not going to pretend that it's a "6" when it isn't.

    My immediate reaction when I saw the name in the shell was that it was German made, with "Messel" either the name of the maker or the place that it was made in Germanyicon.

    As you well know many European countries used the M1icon style of helmet and a miss-matched shell/liner would explain a 1982 dated helmet shell on a Frenchicon liner. (We can see that the liner is obviously French.)

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