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    Fulton Armory has some info about welded receivers & sleeved barrels. http://www.fulton-armory.com/%5Cfaqs...AQs%5CWeld.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk View Post
    Fulton Armory has some info about welded receivers & sleeved barrels. http://www.fulton-armory.com/%5Cfaqs...AQs%5CWeld.htm
    The bottom of the referenced document may provide a clue as to the cause of the recent M1icon destruction shown on youtube and widely discussed on the forums:

    "There is one more point on the rewelds other than the ones you mention. If the receiver is shortened in the cut/weld process, the firing pin may be able to reach the primer before the bolt is locked, that is when it is not yet in the safety cutout in the receiver. The result could be nasty."

    That drama had not occurred to me! Makes sense, though.

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    my barrel reads: 1-s-a-3-43

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.Hall 43 m1 View Post
    my barrel reads: 1-s-a-3-43
    The date tells you when the original barrel was made. It remains on the stub of the demilled M1icon/03A3 barrel combos.

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    I looked at the fulton armory link and, yes I too have a 1903 barrel sleeved into the old M1icon barrel stub. crazy

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    Yes, it does seem that way. I have never heard of one of those sleeved barrels letting go. I did see a photograph of a barrel that was split in the chamber area and it appeared to have been sleeved. There was no description of what happened so I can't say for sure that the barrel was sleeved or what caused the failure.

    Before I knew what I had, I fired my own welded receiver, sleeved barrel rifle frequently. Some of the ammo was 50's FN .30 M2 AP that really flattened primers. It digested those rounds and everything else with no problems.

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    I've had several different malfunctions probably associated with the weld job. It wouldn't fire some m2 ball ammo the previous owner left me. I noticed that it looked like the firing pin barely struck them. Then out of those rounds one fired, the op-rod de-railed and the shell didn't eject. the next time out with different ammo it fired each round great. The time after that the shells kept getting jamed. In a few cases the thick end of the brass was ripped off.

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    The welded Garands sometimes do have issues. Mine came with a cracked trigger, an out of spec follower and a rough surface inside the magazine area of the receiver. It had a hard time getting through a full clip without a stoppage. One by one I figured it all out and it worked great from then on. I learned alot about M1icon's from that rifle many years ago.

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    The welded receivers have tons of issues. They are commonly made up from out of spec receiver stubs. Pass on it. Buy a new receiver from the CMPicon and good luck.

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    receiver welded/bbl sleeved

    at this stage of the game, it would be prudent to get a good receiver from the CMPicon, and a replacement bbl as well. assuming that the rest of your parts are "real", you would then have a like new shooting m1 garand. btw, most of the sleeved bbls were 2 groove 03a3's sleeved onto an original m1 stubb and reprofiled, milled and threaded. no m1 that i am aware of ever had a two groove bbl.

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