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I was going to suggest exactly the same as Mapleleaf except for mentioning the vehicles etc etc........ I wouldn't mind betting that the Dutch needed replacement brackets/telescopes and set about making their own knowing that spares weren't available from the UK
Because the telescope/bracket came as a complete kit and not available separately. It was probably cheaper too AND it kept their own industries busy too. The Dutch made No32 telescopes were made in Delft
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02-26-2012 04:52 AM
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We are all in agreement then!!.....I have spoken to the owner of the bracket (he called me from Holland last night as he is interested in some other stuff). I have dealt with him before & he seems a decent bloke. He stated that he came by the bracket some years ago from the estate of an old fellow who had recently died; the chap had been Dutch military for much of his life & apparently a number of firearms as well as the bracket & various other bits turned up. They say buy the gun (bracket) not the story; but this rings true....
ATB
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I agree DRP. There was a similar event during the last years of L42A1 rifle when the UK MoD needed some brackets to refinish needy L42's. So they simply had some more made.
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Check for Dutch and Belgian foundry marks. An antique dealer who specializes in cast iron wares will probably help. Or some professional body for foundries. You may be able to add an interesting footnote to our knowledge of the No4(T).
Someone should really seek out some of the ex-servicemen who used the No4(T) in places like Belgium, Holland and Israel and get their comments while they are still above ground.
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The Dutch and Belgians used to come to England on the post war sniper courses (we have photos of some of the mixed courses) but initially they came with Canadian mutual aid TP/Lyman rifles which simply couldn't be incorporated into the syllabus so they were issued with bog standard No4T's
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"they were issued with bog standard No4T's......"
Gosh, haven't times changed.
Post war they were "bog standard" now the same rifle is "all matching" "as issued", "original condition".
Much more highly desired than bog standard, but I would settle for bog standard any day.
Perhaps we should have a forum, is my No4T bog standard?
Peter please accept my sincere apology - in advance, but I just love the thought of referring to one of the worlds most highly prized and desired Milsurps as bog standard. 
Paul
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I suspect the manufacturer's mark that is present in relief on the central 'strut' of the bracket will probably turn out to be a Dutch foundry/iron/steel goods manufacturer. Had a quick 'surf' tonight but not found anything yet.....
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I suspect the manufacturer's mark that is present in relief on the central 'strut' of the bracket will probably turn out to be a Dutch foundry/iron/steel goods manufacturer. Had a quick 'surf' tonight but not found anything yet.....
Roger,
Have you tried SM or MS ? also if it is Dutch the W as we see it, could be VSV ? or a combination etc.
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What about a bit of S&M............
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