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For my money the Princess Juliana Carbine wins the prize (I've got No.5's and M38s and M44s). 8mm mauser out of an 18" tube. Guaranteed to clear the adjacent 3 shooting position on either side of you at the range.
Wish I still had mine.
Not mine but a good pic.
Queen Juliana of the Netherlands Carbine - Firearms and ordnance - WW2 militaria collectors-War relics forum. Uniforms, Guns, helmets, battlefield archeology - WW2 militaria collectors-War relics forum. Uniforms, Guns, helmets, battlefield archeology
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03-05-2009 10:45 AM
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No louder´n my Gebirgsjäger Mauser 33/40 (or any other short military carbine).
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I heard of one mouser carbine that was actualy REJECTED by the german cavalry because the barrel was so short that the noise was deafening.
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At some point in time didn't the army issue .45-70 ammo w/ a lighter bullet for use in the carbines?
I saw someone firing a very short Mauser at the range which to me looked like a shorter version of the Yugos that Dunham's sells. The barrel was probably 18". The blast was bad even 4 or 5 benches down the line w/ my muffs on. The owner was hammering the bolt open w/ the palm of his hand. Not my idea of fun.
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Yes, the official trapdoor carbine round was .45/55 and a lighter weight bullet, but can't remember weight right off the top of my head---thinking somewhere around 400 gr.
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What do you know of pain?
Paper-thin 16 3/4" barrel and 230grain Balle N.
-----krinko
Last edited by krinko; 07-05-2009 at 05:04 PM.
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Ouch! Balle N is bad enough in my full-size Mle. 86/93. Makes the No.5 seem like a kitten-pat by comparison. Can't imagine it in a midget Berthier.
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Yeah....that Berthier Carbine is another "rifleman's friend". I've fired mine exactly ONCE.....that was plenty! But then, I never expect much out of either a French car or French firearm!
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They recoil too. I know I've mentioned this before, but when the press, bless 'em, were at Warminster for a demonstration of the new shorty/carbine version of the SA80..., for shortarses and tank crews etc, we laid on a bit of a shoot for them. On the line-up was the usual showing of carbines. From a Sten gun, M1 .30 carbine, M4 carbine etc etc and at the end of the line, another little short carbine with a flash eliminator.
They all took their places and passed along the line, shooting quite merrily at the little friendly targets with the little friendly carbines. That is until one little girly press lady got her hands on the No5 and fired it at the target. The rifle ROARED, the flash exploded from the muzzle as it recoiled back. Well, she was told to grip it tight and hold on but it did buck and recoil a tad more than she expected, specially after the M1 carbine
Now I've been in the Army, and an Armourer for just a couple of years but that day I learned a few more 'appropriate' words. A good time was had by all. We still chuckle about it today
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