For my money the Princess Juliana Carbine wins the prize (I've got No.5's and M38s and M44s). 8mm mauser out of an 18" tube. Guaranteed to clear the adjacent 3 shooting position on either side of you at the range.
Wish I still had mine.

Not mine but a good pic.
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I was going to mention the FR-8 as a louder-than-necessary rifle. Ditto the FR-7 and since it's a small-ring Mauser shooting 7.62NATO, it requires a good bit more chutzpah. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /><br /> <br /> Other flash-bang rifles in my collection include the 1891 <span style='whitespace: nowrap'><a href='https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=127-south-america' onclick="microAjax('autolinker/autolinker_stats.php?uid=0&fid=72&t=c&kw=Argentine', function (res) {;});" target='_blank' onmouseout='UnTip()' onmouseover="Tip('Click the link to view the <a href=\'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=127-south-america\'><b>South America Section</b></a> of the <a href=\'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php\'><b>Milsurp Knowledge Library</b></a>.', BGCOLOR, '#DDDDDD', BORDERCOLOR, '#000000', BORDERWIDTH, '1',FOLLOWMOUSE, 0, OFFSETX, -10, OPACITY, '95', FADEIN, '25', FADEOUT, '25', CLICKCLOSE, true,FOLLOWSCROLL, true, PADDING, 0, BALLOON, 1 ,ABOVE, false, TITLE1, 'South America - Milsurp Knowledge Library',LINKURL, 'https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=127-south-america', SHOWCLOSE, 0, BALLOONIMGPATH , 'autolinker/images/balloons/yellow'); microAjax('autolinker/autolinker_stats.php?uid=0&fid=72&t=v&kw=Argentine', function (res) {;});" style="font-weight:Normal;font-style:Normal;text-decoration:None;text-transform:None;font-size:100%;color:#000000;font-family:;">Argentine</a><img style='margin:1px' src='autolinker/images/link6.gif' alt='icon'/></span> Engineers Carbine and Artillery Carbine -- 7.65x53 Mauser is ballistically equivelent to the .303 Mk.VII -- and my 1873 Seargent's Carbine .45-70Gov't. Though, it's more of a big boom than a sharp crack. 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Balle N is bad enough in my full-size Mle. 86/93. Makes the No.5 seem like a kitten-pat by comparison. Can't imagine it in a midget Berthier. </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> <div class="cleardiv"></div> </div> </div> <div class="postfoot"> <!-- <div class="postfoot_container"> --> <div class="textcontrols"> <span class="postcontrols"> <img style="display:none" id="progress_22454" src="images/tacticalgamer/misc/progress.gif" alt="" /> <a href="showthread.php?page=2&t=4880#top" onclick="document.location.hash='top'; return false;">Top</a> <span class="seperator"> </span> <a class='pminpostbit' href="private.php?s=c8d3a63c149714e9663d6a01f31b8b44&do=newpm&u=4413" rel="nofollow"><img src="clear.gif" alt="Send PM" />PM</a><span class="seperator"> </span> <!-- / START OF Register to reply button in postfoot for guests --> <a id="qrwq_5837" class="newreply" href="https://www.milsurps.com/register.php" rel="nofollow"><img id="quoteimg_5837" src="clear.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" /> Register To Reply</a> <!-- / END OF Register to reply button in postfoot for guests --> </span> <span class="postlinking"> </span> <!-- </div> --> </div> </div> <hr /> </li> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: post_thanks_box --> <li class="postbitlegacy postbitim" id="post_thanks_box_22454" style="display:none"> </li> <!-- END TEMPLATE: post_thanks_box --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: postbit_legacy_ads_ct_2th --> <!-- END TEMPLATE: postbit_legacy_ads_ct_2th --> <!-- END TEMPLATE: postbit_legacy --> <!-- END TEMPLATE: postbit_wrapper --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: postbit_wrapper --> <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: postbit_legacy --> <li class="postbitlegacy postbitim postcontainer" id="post_22530"> <!-- see bottom of postbit.css for .userinfo .popupmenu styles --> <div class="posthead"> <span class="postdate old"> <span class="date">03-06-2009 <span class="time">07:11 AM</span></span> </span> <span class="nodecontrols"> <a name="post22530" href="showthread.php?t=4880&s=c8d3a63c149714e9663d6a01f31b8b44&p=22530&viewfull=1#post22530" class="postcounter">#19</a><a id="postcount22530" name="19"></a> </span> </div> <div class="postdetails"> <div class="userinfo"> <div class="username_container"> <span class="username guest"><span style="color:orange;">John Kepler</span></span> </div> <span class="usertitle"> Guest </span> <a class="postuseravatar" href="member.php?s=c8d3a63c149714e9663d6a01f31b8b44" title=""> <img src="images/misc/member-avatar.png" alt="John Kepler's Avatar" title="John Kepler's Avatar" /> </a> </div> <div class="postbody"> <div class="postrow"> <div class="content"> <div id="post_message_22530"> <blockquote class="postcontent restore "> Yeah....that Berthier Carbine is another "rifleman's friend". I've fired mine exactly ONCE.....that was plenty! 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I know I've mentioned this before, but when the press, bless 'em, were at Warminster for a demonstration of the new shorty/carbine version of the SA80..., for shortarses and tank crews etc, we laid on a bit of a shoot for them. On the line-up was the usual showing of carbines. 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That is until one little girly press lady got her hands on the No5 and fired it at the target. The rifle ROARED, the flash exploded from the muzzle as it recoiled back. Well, she was told to grip it tight and hold on but it did buck and recoil a tad more than she expected, specially after the M1 carbine<br /> <br /> Now I've been in the Army, and an Armourer for just a couple of years but that day I learned a few more 'appropriate' words. A good time was had by all. 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