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    Here is a picture of the brass:



    The brass is described as follows:

    "30-06 LC-62 Match brass, unfired, deprimed. RARE! This is original Lake City US military spec. match brass in excellent condition." and is somewhat cheaper than new commercial brass.

    Thanks for the longevity chart, Ed. I was somewhat surprised by the relatively short life of the Military brass. I've always heard that the military brass was thicker then commercial and assumed that would result in longer life.

    LC 69 unfired brass from pulled down ammunition is also available for less than the match brass. It would however, require reaming of the primer crimp.

    Based on Ed's chart, Remington commercial might be the best overall buy of any of the 30.06 brass.

    Thanks for the plug for Prvi ammo, too, Ed. I've used it in various calibers for several years now and have reloaded the brass (7.5 Swissicon, 8x57, 7.65x53, and 7.62x54R) to good effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Hi Steve,

    i use to sorts of cases, the very good and loglife PRVI ( .30-06, .303 etc.) and the more expensive but extremly good Lapua cases. ( .308W, 6.5 Swede)
    The RWS/Geco cases that Patrick stated are also a good choice.

    @ Patrick,

    i use some of my cases since 8 years without any problems.

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    Thanks, Gunner. I've reloaded 7.5 Swissicon, 54R, 7.65x53 and 8x57 Prvi cases with great results. It is indeed good brass. I've not reloaded any case more than 3 times however.

    Steve

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    What make of dies were used in this test? I have been using RCBS X-Dies in my Garandicon (.30-'06) and haven't had a case failure yet. Case rims do get chewed up by the Garand extractor, however.

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    For the .308, .30-06 and the 6,5x55mm i use special made Dies from Triebel.
    The rest is made with Hornady Dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfed View Post
    The brass is described as follows:

    "30-06 LC-62 Match brass, unfired, deprimed. RARE! This is original Lake City US military spec. match brass in excellent condition." and is somewhat cheaper than new commercial brass.
    LC '62 M72 Match brass is not rare; it is simply puffery by the seller. I have thousands of this brass (It is a good year, by the way).

    Quote Originally Posted by Calfed View Post
    I've always heard that the military brass was thicker then commercial and assumed that would result in longer life.
    This is a commonly held belief. It comes from the fact that most military 7.62x51 brass is heavier than commercial .308 brass, so people simply assume that this applies to all military cartridges. With the .30-06, there is not that great a difference between military and commercial brass (except Winchester and Norma), and I load my LC '62 M72 brass the same as my Lapua brass, and velocity/pressure is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USSR View Post
    LC '62 M72 Match brass is not rare; it is simply puffery by the seller. I have thousands of this brass (It is a good year, by the way).
    Don
    Thanks Don. Glad to hear about the LC-62 being a good year.

    Unfired LC 62 match brass is fairly rare around here. I'll take the seller's words for what they are worth. Guess a certain amount of puffery is to be expected.

    The seller is looking for .35/round for the Match and .25/round for the LC-69 unfired "non-match" brass. Primer crimp will have to be dealt with on that.

    Guess my question is whether I would be better off with the match, non-match or commercial, which seems to run around .40/round in these parts

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    Either way you will have to prep the brass to have top quality. If you go with regular LC line brass get more than you need and do a full prep and then sort by weight or if you are extreme sort by water volume. On the civilian side go with Norma or Lapua brass and you still need to prep.

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    I suppose that you really don't have an idea what to do then? flip your coin and choose, can't go wrong.

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    One more point. I thought Nosler brass is being made by Hornandy. Anybody know?

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    Does Hornady actually make brass?

    I've bought some of their military surplus caliber brass (7.5 Swissicon and 7.7 Japaneseicon) and that brass is marked "Graf", which is made by Prvi.

    Wonder if Prvi makes all of Hornady's brass?

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