Lee enfield coocker safety

[ugotit33]

Thank you
I see how it goes together.
So is it just pressure from the thumb safety internally on the striker that stops it from going forward.
Looks like I can modify my bolt or find one like it.
Where would I find one. I hate not having a safety.
Cheers

[muffett.2008]

Ugotit33, I'm pleased you found your way to this forum, here you will get the correct answers to your questions.
I would have offered information on another site, however it seems I am banned without reason, and can't findout why.
The short bolt configuration will fit and the fitment of a later type safety will bring it up to scratch.
The original bolt bodies were of two different styles, as 5th Batt has stated, the type you are interested in is depicted below.
Attachment 59724Attachment 59725

[ugotit33]

Hey Thank you, that is what I have but no safety thumb leaver. Some where made with no safety.
I would like to convert my bolt so I can use the cocker with safety I just bought.
The bolt you show had a longer stem at the end, and the striker must have been at least 1/2 inch longer.
I have my small machine shop lathe etc, small gunsmith, and could extend the bolt and lengthen the striker,
but nothing to go by.
Do you have one of these that you could give me the length of the bolt with out the extended piece and with.
Also the length of the striker.
Would be much appreciated.
Also I do not get notified when there is a post on this thread not sure why not. ????

[5thBatt]

Ugotit33, the latest post on the other forum where you have asked this same question is full of mis-information & just plane in-correct information, unfortunately for you & others who may join there, all the "experts" have been banned from there as a personal vendetta by the mods after one of them was "called out" on another forum.

[ugotit33]

Let me Clarify
Did you mean they give misinformation I gave misinformation????

[5thBatt]

They.
I will break it down later, i am at work now & hate posting from my cellphone.

[ugotit33]

I just made the extension on my lathe to accept the safety and cooker.
I need some good pictures of what you showed and measurements if you
can do that.
I can Tig this piece I made on to my bolt and extend my firing striker.

[ugotit33]

OK
Thank you

[5thBatt]

"What you have is an MLE (Magazine Lee-Enfield) modified to SMLE No.1 Mk3 standard. This was an official modification to bring the old 'Long' rifle to the new 'Short' rifle standard. Everything is correct... no change outs are required. The attached pics shows how your SMLE would have looked in its original configuration."

All this is just incorrect, your rifle was never converted to a SMLE.

"From my records, it was a fact that the first (1888) MLM Mk.1 were without a safety. These were basically trials weapons.. around 350 in number. Extensive trials resulted in these weapons being withdraw in 1890. Following major modifications, the first safety catch was introduced on the Mk.II of 1895, which also resulted in a lengthened cocking piece. The 11th November 1895 saw the introduction of the MLE Mk.1 as a replacement for MLM... both rifles being identical outwardly except for the omission of the finger groove in the stock of the MLE."

This is full of mis-information as pointed out by other member on that forum, his reply to that is mostly nonsense & he should just admit he got it wrong.

[ugotit33]

Hello Sir
I understand all that. The fact remains that I'm not looking to restore this rifle to anything other than a safe firing piece of machinery.
To shoot a 303 projectile. Somebody made these things, modified them all over the world. From one place to another, put there own marks on them etc, from what I have read.
So the bottom line is I got two of these different models and have maked one out of two work. That's what gunsmiths do. That's what they all did to get us to this point in time.
If it were not for a gunsmith with smarts with tools, we would still be walking around with a club in our hand no offense to anyone. Maybe we should have stayed that way.
I have a gunsmith license that's what I do for the love of it, not money. Sad lots of people on the whole planet had to die, going through this game of war.
I made one work to say the least and fairly accurate after mix matching receiver and barrel, the poor barrel I bored for a 410, India did it, so I have read. Not finished with it.
See I test fired 4 rounds, 1 low to the right, re sighted the scope the next 3 in the size of a inch and half. perfect barrel.
Please understand, All in all, I'm here for looking for specks on on how to add back the thumb cocker safety nothing more. Bolt size and striker size on the ones that had this safety
I know the bolt end was longer, and the firing pin was longer. I have lathes, milling machine tig welder. Just need the specks.
Thank you for getting back to me.
See test picture