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    Some EXCELLENT tech info in that book, especially in the section on primer manufacture.

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    Bullet design

    I don't know if HBC has custom dies made but Corbin dies are only sold in round numbers for the secant. If I am calculating correctly based on the drawing 2.3" radius/.311" would be a 8.36 secant. It would move the weight back since it is a longer ogive. The image is from the Corbins bullet design website.


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    any news on these projectiles???

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    There may be a long wait as I am thinking about all the new bans in place in the USAicon on the exportation of gear as my LGS says that Brownells are not sending anything I have had a Forster .308 FLS on order for 12 months I hope HBC get on to it soon.

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    There's no export ban in the USAicon on reloading components, tools or parts shipments. They are considered controlled shipments by the U.S. Gov't and there are regulatory hoops to jump through. Many manufacturers and sellers simply aren't prepared to do it or don't want to be bothered. Many others just do it anyhow although they are violating ITAR at their own risk. You can have Brownells send your item/items here if you want but I DO charge a fee for the handling and AES ITN submission before shipment. I can ship up to $100 without export licensing being required.

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    i figured the best way to get info was from the horses mouth...

    david has just come back from the US. his tool maker is snowed under, but the project is moving. he's expecting to get the tooling around the end of the year.

    the minimum sales lot will be 5000 projectiles. he is expecting them to be about the same price as his 308 match projectiles, so i doubt anyone in Australiaicon will bother with seirra or hornady once these come out. (seirra have gone up at my closest stockist... from 70 cents to 84.4 cents each )
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    Think they will find that he can drop the minimum order as if open to the world market then Seirras reign will be over then dependent on material costs they may be able to adjust, should see Malcolm Bone Taipan projectiles if he wants to off load his old Lithgowicon presses or dies for the 303......just a thought

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    he said they will be made on the same machines as his match bullets. i think he said to the same tolerances too.

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    It's December! Any news!!

    It's neigh on the end of the year. Is there any news on availability of the HBC's?
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    You will find Malcom Bone's machines will rust away with him. I doubt you will see another 303 from him as they are not a big order for him.

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    I believe they are still waiting on dies from the US. Will be next year sometime.

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