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Scout Sniper No4 butt srew seized! Tool... 08-26-2019, 09:33 AM
Alan de Enfield Penetrating fluid will only... 08-26-2019, 09:55 AM
capt14k Heat 08-26-2019, 10:05 AM
Scout Sniper Thanks for the advice, will... 08-26-2019, 10:08 AM
Alan de Enfield I would try to avoid the heat... 08-26-2019, 10:21 AM
capt14k I agree. Also carefully... 08-26-2019, 10:24 AM
Alan de Enfield The actual butt-bolt is very... 08-26-2019, 10:15 AM
Scout Sniper Thats a great amount of... 08-26-2019, 10:58 AM
Alan de Enfield 5mm Head depth 08-26-2019, 11:12 AM
Scout Sniper Cheers, Quick question...... 08-26-2019, 11:36 AM
Alan de Enfield The 'head' sits on a 'ledge',... 08-26-2019, 12:02 PM
usabaker Having never tore down one of... 09-12-2019, 08:15 PM
browningautorifle To keep things from rattling... 09-12-2019, 08:17 PM
22SqnRAE Bill, Precisely. Leather... 09-13-2019, 01:51 AM
Scout Sniper Nope, no leather washer.... 08-26-2019, 12:53 PM
Peter Laidler FORGET HEAT.................. 08-26-2019, 01:11 PM
Scout Sniper Apart from having a better... 08-26-2019, 01:23 PM
RobD This is a familiar situation.... 08-26-2019, 02:20 PM
Scout Sniper I have just brought a... 08-26-2019, 02:47 PM
RobD Scout sniper, I noted in a... 08-26-2019, 02:57 PM
Scout Sniper Thanks for the offer, but ive... 08-26-2019, 03:40 PM
Scout Sniper Success!! I have to admit... 09-02-2019, 04:26 PM
Alan de Enfield Well done - it just needed... 09-02-2019, 04:53 PM
Scout Sniper And persistence! I refused to... 09-02-2019, 05:01 PM
Mk VII I saw one of these tools, and... 09-03-2019, 10:11 AM
Scout Sniper How much was it up for out of... 09-03-2019, 10:14 AM
Mk VII I didn't ask them, but I... 09-03-2019, 10:17 AM
Nigel Brace and bit 09-06-2019, 07:50 PM
Peter Laidler Nigels photo shows the... 09-07-2019, 05:43 AM
browningautorifle But that was supposed to bear... 09-07-2019, 08:55 AM
Scout Sniper Thanks for the picture Nigel,... 09-07-2019, 05:53 AM
Peter Laidler You're right BAR, it was... 09-07-2019, 11:09 AM
browningautorifle I had forgotten that... 09-07-2019, 05:36 PM
Doco overboard We still use those in the... 09-08-2019, 12:58 AM
Scout Sniper So i finally cleaned the butt... 09-08-2019, 01:33 PM
Mk VII Fortunately there are large... 09-08-2019, 04:44 PM
Scout Sniper From what i have found, most... 09-08-2019, 04:47 PM
CINDERS The oil bottle hole (I was... 09-09-2019, 09:23 AM
Bruce_in_Oz My 2c worth: The original... 09-12-2019, 10:27 PM
Scout Sniper It works well to stop... 09-13-2019, 02:19 AM
Alan de Enfield Or, a wire coathanger with a... 09-13-2019, 02:37 AM
Scout Sniper Or that... haha... 09-13-2019, 02:38 AM
Scout Sniper Sum people like to keep a... 09-14-2019, 05:50 AM
browningautorifle For .303? I guess that would... 09-14-2019, 09:48 AM
Scout Sniper Yup the Enfield. 303... ... 09-14-2019, 10:31 AM
Scout Sniper Quick question...? So when... 09-16-2019, 02:49 AM
22SqnRAE SS, the trick is, naturally,... 09-16-2019, 04:15 AM
Scout Sniper Thank you, was thinking brown... 09-16-2019, 05:06 AM
Sunray How available is a regular... 09-16-2019, 12:26 PM
Scout Sniper I tried that, if you read... 09-16-2019, 01:31 PM
browningautorifle He doesn't, he just reads the... 09-16-2019, 02:29 PM
Scout Sniper Thats ok, i am happy to shim... 09-16-2019, 02:46 PM
Peter Laidler Instead of paper to pack out... 09-16-2019, 03:40 PM
browningautorifle That's why I didn't say it... 09-16-2019, 07:33 PM
usabaker Paper or Stencil paper type... 09-16-2019, 08:56 PM
browningautorifle I had to make stencils once... 09-17-2019, 12:07 AM
usabaker I had to make stencils to put... 09-17-2019, 12:21 AM
Scout Sniper Well i went for gasket paper,... 09-17-2019, 02:26 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    it was just a round slightly dished plate.
    But that was supposed to bear against your shoulder or upper chest wasn't it? Thus the saddle affair. The one pictured resembles the user we had on the farm when I was young...was for use originally by the men when they built barns and such.
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    Thanks for the picture Nigel, although a little late to the game as i no longer required this. I ended up sourcing other tools and found a solid and reliable solution..

    Im surprised to see the end of the tool tapers? Especially after everybody stressing the importance of the tool head having parallel faces.

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    You're right BAR, it was meant to bear the weight of your shoulder or chest. The same tool had loads of uses on the Bren and BESA too.. Buffer nut, pistol grip, No1 and 2 pistol chamber scrubber etc etc. I've still got one. Our brace was a one-size-fits-all, unlike the commercial version with an adjustable 4-jaw drill chuck for square shanked wood drills

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    the commercial version with an adjustable 4-jaw drill chuck for square shanked wood drills
    I had forgotten that part...haven't seen that one in...45 years or so.
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    We still use those in the industry for framing up and boring wood utility poles. They're a whole lot easier to carry in than a gas drill or having to rely on battery powered cordless drills for when it counts sometimes. Boring bits carefully kept in an oiled tool cloth and sent up in a nose bag never tossed about or thrown. When I started to apprentice they were the norm. Break one of those out now and the grunts will start to look out their phone or need an energy drink real quick.

    I also made a long bit up for drilling deep holes in half stocked muzzle-loading rifles. A brace is better than a drill motor to avoid splits or holes that wander off center when driven to quickly. Haven't used it for a while though. A socket brace is good for some things. Still keep one for some things and pretty handy sometimes, surprised to see them being discussed here.

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    So i finally cleaned the butt stock out, took a hell of a lot of kitchen towel and i kept cleaning till it came out spotless.

    As the wood was incredibly dry inside i gave it all a once with boiled linseed oilicon which is soaked right up.

    All nice and tidy ready for the new leather washer, pull through and oil bottle.

    I have a new screw, washer and spring washer. Just dropped it inside for a quick check to make sure it fits ok. Nice and snug. I'm so happy with the results i have done a before and after picture.

    The screw has again been removed until i can source sum XG-279 grease to coat it all with.

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    Fortunately there are large quantities of NOS stock bolts still on the market - they must have over-ordered. Not the sort of thing you wear out.

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    From what i have found, most parts are "Ten a penny"

    Although i can't for the life of me find a magazine follower for a Long Branch magazine. I believe it should have a circle with a B inside it.

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    The oil bottle hole (I was gunna say butt bolt hole but thats a bit well off?) brass guide is not often seen I brought one years ago I have a commercial 4 jaw in the shed but thankfully I am blessed with gorilla hands so can get them without the brace just a large square shanked screwdriver suitably ground and if they are really tight I add a spanner to fit the shank and there ya go........
    Good persistence Scout got there in the end.........
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    My 2c worth:

    The original oil bottles were robust little brass numbers. The rear of the storage hole is nicely padded by the correctly-wound pull-through.

    The leather washer was probably to mute the impact of brass on steel in delicate situations.

    Probably also helped reduce cracking of the later "plastic" / Bakelite? ones

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