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    Help with a No4 Savage

    I found a No4 Savage made on GunBroker that I'm interested in. It's all matching numbers including the magazine.... The stock is in typical used shape with dings and dangs here and there. My question is, the bolt handle is hollowed. I haven't seen another like it except on No5 bolts. The receiver doesn't have the lighting cut by the rear sight like the No5 so I don't think it's a No5 receiver.

    So why the hollowed out handle?
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    Sounds like a second variation bolt that was mostly used on No5 rifles, but can be found on some No4's.

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    Hi ....

    For members who may also be trying to assess the general correctness of a Savage they may be examining against an original issued one, go to the England - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here) and view the 82 picture photo gallery montage for the 1943 Savage No.4 Mk1* Enfield Rifle (click here).

    Here's a couple of pics from the photo montage showing the bolt head area and Savage markings.

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    Also on the subject of Savages, with thanks to Advisory Panelicon member Lance, there's also a rare "all correct" 1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope) (click here) .....

    Lance's article, accompanied by a detailed 165 pic photo montage, speaks to this example as being one of approximately 3,400 Savage rifles converted by Holland and Holland and re-barreled with an Enfield 5 groove barrel, however, it was never fitted with a matching No.32 scope.

    Edit: Here's the bolt head and markings from the Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope).

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    Hope this helps...

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    Thanks Badger. I did check out the No4 Savages in the Knowledge Libraryicon. This is a great resource.

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