Working on my fake spotting skills

**Curt** · 07-25-2009 11:35 PM

Is this band fishy?http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=135327810

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**Highly Recommended** · 07-25-2009 11:35 PM

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**Bruce McAskill** · 07-26-2009 12:18 AM

Not just fishy but a poor fake at best. At least the rear sight is correct for an IP. The stamping in the stock would also be fake. That's a lot of money for a messed up mix master.

**Curt** · 07-26-2009 01:00 AM

I didn't see the stamping on the stock till after my post. I am getting some skills for this finally.

**painter777** · 07-26-2009 01:55 AM

In picture #7 is that a stake punch on the left rear dove tail?
Really poor pics for that kinda of change !!

Charlie-painter777

**shadycon** · 07-26-2009 08:53 AM

That looks like it has been around the block a few times. Seen much better at CMP icon

for a lot less.

**604flyer** · 07-26-2009 12:01 PM

Yeah Charlie..that stake mark sticks out like a sore thumb. And I'm not real warm and fuzzy with the rear sight. I've handled a few L&S sights that had identical milling marks on them, but I'd have to dig one of guns out of the safe to compare before claiming it to be a repop. The barrel date is way too late for the serial number too; shouldn't be any later than 6-43. Not to mention that Inland barrels weren't used in Grand Rapids until late in their production.

**Bruce McAskill** · 07-26-2009 04:05 PM

For a very early IP an Inland barrel would be correct as would Rock-Ola or Underwood. The later ones also used Buffalo Arms barrels too but the main barrel used was Underwood. The Inland barrel on this one is a replacement.

**albud3** · 07-26-2009 05:34 PM

Huh, the seller is about 10 miles from me. Maybe I should go over and do am "up close and personal" check on the rifle.

Notice his 'return policy..."as is". If I'm paying $6000 for a rifle that supposed to be "original", I'll be d@mned if I'm buying "as is" when the barrel band and rear sight are raising flags! Wonder what a real close examination would find?

**FFAM1** · 07-26-2009 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by albud3

Huh, the seller is about 10 miles from me. Maybe I should go over and do am "up close and personal" check on the rifle.

Notice his 'return policy..."as is". If I'm paying $6000 for a rifle that supposed to be "original", I'll be d@mned if I'm buying "as is" when the barrel band and rear sight are raising flags! Wonder what a real close examination would find?

Too many problems to count, maybe a good story from the seller as well....

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