Does Anyone Recognize These Markings/Proofs??

[040x]

This is my rifle, was given to me from my Grandfather after he died. I hope it is pre 1960's because there are No Serials on it.. it was "Hand Carved" from what i have heard and could use some restoration (which is what im doing) But I Really want to know more about the internals.. Who the Hell Made This!? I have no idea. Here are a few pictures.


Thanks in Advance!

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[040x]

~~PS~~ In the picture of the barrel, i believe the letters are "SNW" because right next to it, it looks like theres "VP" engraved in it..

[vintage hunter]

Looks like a P 14 or P 17, maybe a Winchester. What caliber is it? By restoring it do you mean back to military configuration? Aside from the barrel being cut off the rear sight ''ears'' have been milled off as well. Original parts for these are quite difficult to come by and with the reciever mods it would'nt be worth the effort.

[040x]

Its a 30-06. By restoring i just meant to make it look better than...****. like how i got it. Re finish the stock, but keep on all that it came with. I have already cleaned the hell out of it and it fires fine, extremely accurate. Anything else you wanna see on it to determine what it might be?

[vintage hunter]

Being a 30-06 makes it a P-17. In case you not familiar with the type they were made during WWI for the Brits in .303 as the Pattern '14 and for the US as the Model 1917 in 30-06 by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone. The s/n would normally be on the right side of the reciever but the scope base may be covering it up or has been relocated below the woodline. At least you may find a makers mark of whoever converted it to a sporter. After the war Remington had a bunch of recievers left over and made sporting rifles out of them called the Model 30. A hunting buddy has a Model 30 that was re-barreled to 50-110 Winchester.

[Chuckindenver]

your rifle is a sporterized M1917 Enfield, all collector value is long since been ground off, when it was made into a hunting rifle, VP and the other markings close to it are Winchester proof marks, bomb stamps are ord, markings common with US military arms,
NS on the bolt handle is Nickle Steel, common marking on Winchester bolts.. yes made well before 1960...try 1918.. WW1. as for restoring? bring this rifle back to military trim is tough, if not impossible. rear sight has been ground off, ect...it would cost way more then its worth to try and weld another set of sight ears on the rifle.
as for just refinishing it??sure...contact me via PM, id be happy to give you my rates..
your rifles serial number is under the scope base.
remove the base, youll find the makers markings, and the serial number.

[040x]

Thanks for all your help guys its very appreciated. I did my homework and yes it is a Winchester, i found other markings that proved that (on the bolt). No I wont restore it to original condition, I just want to clean it up. The stock is made by Fajen, I took it all apart and found that name inside. As for the serial number, even though it was before the 1960's is it illegal to take out and shoot? (because it does have a serial, but its hidden under the sight mount)

[Chuckindenver]

i did repond via PM..yes, your rifle is legal to own and shoot with the serial covered up.
what iv done for guys in the past is engrave the serial number in the side of the scope base so that it can be seen..

[Harlan (Deceased)]

First, welcome to the site ThotSheWas18

Your rifle is a sporterized milsurp and a piece of history in it's own rite. MANY milsurps were done like that back in the day - they were plentiful and cheap, and store-bought hunting rifles were expensive. People used these sports to hunt with and put food on the table. Sure its not worth a lot to a collector, but it's sure not a piece of junk - the price was cheap for you!

It's also a piece of your family history so it doesn't make much difference of it's collector value because it should be priceless to you.

[040x]

Thank you for making me feel at home Harlan Yes the gun is priceless to me. I never knew ANYTHING about my great grandfather.. we never ever hung out or talked, we had nothing in common, until he left this behind specifically for me. Took it to the range last night, ill post some pics of the target if you guys want a good laugh! (was sighting in the scope!)