Immediate action stoppage drills on SMLE

[Pommydigger]

Hi there

Just new to the forums. I was wondering if anyone could tell me the best book or Pam to obtain that might detail the IA's for an SMLE.

thanks

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[Peter Laidler]

Get the pommy Infantry Training pamphet if it's just info about using the rifle you need. Readily available from that auction site. Just my 2c's worth as one having been brought up on the stuff!

[Pommydigger]

Thanks for that, most of the ones I've seen don't give specific IA's , I'll check it out

[Beerhunter]

Thanks for that, most of the ones I've seen don't give specific IA's , I'll check it out

They don't. How do you get an IA stoppage on a manually operated firearm?

For example: Gun's firing all right. Guns stops. Cock gun. Off Mag. On Mag. Re-aim and fire. (No prizes for that one.)

[muffett.2008]

Not quite correct, 1st IA-wait 30 sec's, recock and fire again.
2nd IA- open action, visually check there is a round on the platform,if not close bolt ensuring a round is picked up.
3rd IA- check ejected round for firing pin strike.
The variables,out of ammo,ammo base lockup......correct and resume firing.

Magazines are not normally changed on charger load firearms.

[Beerhunter]

I think that you are quoting the miss-fire drill on a range.

BTW, I was quoting the Bren.

[Badger]

One of the best books I've ever read (and trained with) on shooting the Enfield rifle is available in electronic format, professionally scanned (thanks to Ian Robertson), in the Knowledge Library section Technical Articles for Milsurp Collectors and Re-loaders (click here)

"Shoot-to-Live" - 1945 (click here)

Presenting the Johnson Method of Musketry Coaching As Adopted By the Canadian Army, Ottawa, Chief of the General Staff.

This is an excellent Canadian Government issued training manual. If you are specifically a collector and shooter of Lee Enfield Rifles, you'll find this to be an outstanding reference work and it contains a wealth of information on how to properly shoot the No.4 Mk1 Enfield, although much of the content is applicable to any bolt action rifle. I remember being issued this manual as part of our regimental rifle team, when I was a little younger back in the early 60's.

Regards,
Doug

[Peter Laidler]

I have to say that I don't recall any particular stoppage drills on the No4 during training. Just the usual rim-behind-rim hangups and the missfire where the instructors would put in a drill round 'somewhere' in the magazine, then stand behind you to see how firmly you held the rifle, squeezed the trigger or flinched when it didn't go bang. You just ejected it straight away and got on with firing off as much ammo as you could. I don't remember looking at struck primers or picking the round up. I do remember being taught to tip the rifle over to the right to tip a spent case out occasionally

As for taking drill rounds onto a range now.......... Woweeeeeee, a hanging offence. Not hanging in the usual commercial sense, but hanging in the Army sense........., by the testicles!

[Kiwi]

As for taking drill rounds onto a range now.......... Woweeeeeee, a hanging offence. Not hanging in the usual commercial sense, but hanging in the Army sense........., by the testicles!

Peter, forgive me if I've missing the obvious, but what's the issue with taking drill rounds onto a range?

[Peter Laidler]

By doing so, there's a chance, albeit a very slight one, of drill and live rounds being mixed up in the future after, say, being mixed up loose in ammo pouches. And before you say that the chances are soooooooo slim that...., then maybe I can remind you of an accident involving a recruit and an eye-disc.

Training Sgt at Hounslow teaching recruits to hold L1A1 firmly while aiming at the eye disc held by the Sergeant. Fires and relaods/re-cocks with a couple of drill rounds then fires again - only to blow the Sergeants head off! He wasn't happy I have to say....., nor was the Sergeant. Recruit had drill and live rounds mixed up after range day the day before. Drill rouinds were found to be well worn and many had the chrome worn away to reveal the brass cases so identification in the classroom between liove ball and worn chrome/brass drill rounds was difficult. Even today, before any lesson the drill rounds are inspected by the Sgt/instructor AND the class