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8mm reloading components for sale @ marstar
I wonder if anyone here has picked up the 8mm ammo from marstar for reloading components. I believe the bullets are 218 grain. The price is right but 218 grain might be a bit much for my mausers that and the fact you have to pull a 1000 bullets any opinons out there.
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02-06-2007 09:41 AM
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I use the projectiles for reloading 8mm Lebel. The brass is a writeoff and the powder is a total mystery to me, though Andy may know.
Союз нерушимый республик свободных Сплотила навеки Великая Русь. Да здравствует созданный волей народов Единый, могучий Советский Союз!
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Have you tried re-using the powder?
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I had wolverine bring me in 20,000 rounds of the stuff to shoot in my M1919. By the time it arrived, the number had rounded off to about 21000 because of the case sizes. Then we discovered that each crate came with another 70 rounds of tracer for a total of 21,840 rounds.
For the price of the ammo, the belts alone will pay for the cost. It's like shooting for free.
I went to Wolverines with my Honda accord, not fully realising just how heavy all this was going to be. At about 175 pounds per crate X 12 crates, it totalled to over 2000 pounds. Oh well, no different than filling the car up with some of the chicks I recall from high school. My first stop on the way home was to the gas station to air up (wayyyy-up) the back tires. Then, after a hour and a half drive along the trans canada highway at a comfortable 65 kmh, I ended up damaging the muffler crossing the tracks in Douglas.
Upon unoading the crates from the car, I discovered quite a bit of termite infestation in some of the crates. I am hoping it is 1942 Swedish termites instead of 2006 Ontario termites. As a result, the ammo got stored in the garage, and is now subject to -30 temoeratures, which can't be good for the ammo, and certainly not for the termites.
Now I just have to find a M1919 barrel in 8mm so I can rechamber it for this ammo. A couple others have done it around here, and it works great. Not just because it is cheap, but because the belts were proffesionally filled and the bullet depth in the belts is consitant. And at the end of the day, the guys get their money back selling the belts for $25 or $30 each.
If Marstar really wants to sell this stuff, they should get some 8mm barrels in stock for the 1919s. There are lots of the barrels in the US, but with the export restrictions these days, no dealer down there will ship up here.
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That's hilarious stencollector. That poor Honda.
Have you inquired with Questar about importing a barrel?
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Originally Posted by
Stevo
Have you tried re-using the powder?
No, as I bought my projectiles from someone else who bought it for the powder No idea how it is or how it shoots though...?
Союз нерушимый республик свободных Сплотила навеки Великая Русь. Да здравствует созданный волей народов Единый, могучий Советский Союз!
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funky 8mm
Well the price is right, it is just a shame about the powder though. My poor old bullet puller is going to get a work out though and as far as the powder I am sure I can do something worth of the Darwin of the north award.
Now anybody know a recipe for these bad boys in a 98
218grain projectiles
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Originally Posted by
Stevo
That's hilarious stencollector. That poor Honda.
Have you inquired with Questar about importing a barrel?
Good suggestion....I will look in to that. Hopefully they don't charge $200 to import a part.
I was also considering buying a Montana barrel blank in 1-1/4" diameter. The 1919 barrel is just thousandths of an inch below that diameter, so it could be made in to a 1919 barrel pretty easily. The threads on the one end should be no problem, just the notches for the barrel locking spring will have to be hand ground.
It's too cold these days to consider anything to do with shooting. I just got back from the Dominican last week (+28C day after day) and am now maintaining my tan with windburn at -30C. It went to -21 today, and it actually felt warm.
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I could talk all day, but go here:
www.8x63swedish.pridham.ca
Powder is just fine - military flake with burn rate near IMR 4320
Bullets are great for the 8x57 - use data for 220gr, twist rate on military mausers handles them with no problems
Brass - Sell for scrap brass. There's no sure-fire method to deactivate primers aside from firing them in a gun, or possibly subjectig them to heat.
Belts - they go for about $25/each
As for pulling bullets when you don't care about re-using the brass, nothing beats this:
- drill a 5/16" hole through a thick (1/4"+) steel bar
- clamp it on a bench with the drilled part overhanging
- insert the cartridge bullet first into the hole from below, up to the neck-bullet juncture
- bend the cartridge back and forth to distort the neck and loosen its hold on the bullet
- remove the bullet
- dump the powder in a container, the bullet into another, and the the brass into another
- REPEAT (takes 5-10 seconds/bullet)
Last edited by Andy; 11-29-2020 at 01:10 PM.
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I use a kinetic puller, and use both the powder and bullets in my 8mm Gibbs, made up on an old but functional and very accurate Brno 98. I picked up a reamer for it last fall, but haven't moved the lathe into the new shop yet and no power in the old shop to cut a new chamber in a take off bbl from years back, still has cosmoline in it so it should be a good shooter. IMR4320 specs are almost perfect for that flake powder. I tried fireing just the primer onto a piece of mild steel that I had polished up and stored in a dry place for a week then checked it out for corrosion, nothing. A month later, there was a little rust from my fingerprints, but nothing else. Andy, how did your rust test pan out? Hopefully as well as mine. It would be nice if this stuff proves to be non corrosive. I declined the belts and tracer ammo when my ammo was shipped to defer freight costs. Marstar didn't charge extra to open the crates and strip out the bullets. Noticed a little water damage on the crates and on some of the boxes but all of the brass is pristine and shiney. I'm looking forward to wearing out a bbl with this stuff. By the way, even though the kinetic puller is very efficient and so is Andys' method as well, I tried both by the way, I find it very difficult to justify breaking up very good quality cartridges for components, when it is so easy and cheap to put together a rifle. I'm going to try to build up a Swedish 98 lookalike, with a muzzle brake etc. Should be fun if nothing else. Around eleven cents a round shipped to my doorstep, I haven't seen prices like that since the very early seventies, you can't lose, unless you procrastinate and don't use them. Andy, do you still use the rifle you chambered for this cartridge? bearhunter
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