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Inland Carbine with 871XXX Serial Number
Hey guys, new to this forum but it seems like everyone here is incredibly knowledgeable with these guns. I'm starting to "restore" a carbine that has been passed down through the family, however I'm still fairly new to these seeing that I've always had Garand's. I'm not looking to change anything on the gun, more just clean it up and continue to enjoy shooting it. That being said I'm just hoping you guys can help me get some basic info on this gun! Thanks guys
James
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Last edited by Onamission23; 03-03-2012 at 10:09 PM.
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03-03-2012 10:04 PM
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Your carbine has probably been through a couple of wars or more. early serial number and late barrel. So the barrel has been changed. Very late M2 stock, and late updated rebuild parts, rear sight, barrel band, slide etc.
I have never seen a recoil plate screw like that, and am not sure how it holds the plate in the stock?
How about some pics of the trigger housing and coponents?
Clean it up and shoot and enjoy it.....Frank
Last edited by frankderrico; 03-03-2012 at 10:32 PM.
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Hey Frank thanks for the reply! I had the feeling it had seem some action with the low serial and fairly late barrel but I had read that most of the carbines had been rebuilt/refurbished at least once in their lifetimes. Here are some of the pictures you asked for, let me know if there is anything else you need!
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Benicia Arsenal, CA. First time I've seen that rebuild stamp on a carbine. With the odd markings on the heel, I would be looking for an import mark on the barrel or receiver. The circle P is a standard stock marking but the 58 and L are not, although such marks might possibly be rack numbers. You're right, don't change of alter anything - just clean and oil. A nice, typical rebuild that apparently was refinished again after the first rebuild. This is because the rear sight and all small parts look to have the same finish.
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Is that what the BA stands for? I was wondering what that could be with JPL underneath it. Where should I look for an import stamp/marking? I've broken the entire gun down so ill scour over it tonight and post anything new I find. I don't want to change anything on it except try and clean up the wood a little bit because there is 60+ years of dirt in it but after reading numerous threads on here some guys have said that improves the value of the gun.
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Look on the bottom of the barrel. The mark might be faint and even look like a scratch. Also check the left side of the receiver.
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These are the two markings that I found, SG on the left side of the receiver and what appears to say Springfield Sporters INC Penn Run PA under the barrel.
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There you go, that's the importer. That means some other country received carbines from the U.S. after WWII, and eventually surplussed them out. They were bought by a USA importer, brought in and distributed after being marked in accordance with the law.
JPL was the inspector at BA. The value of your rebuild will not be lowered by wiping down the stock with dry-cleaning solvent like Naptha. If it were all-original as first shipped, conservation would be an issue. With an import that possibly has been overhauled by another country, not so much. SG is Saginaw Gear, a division of GM. There were transfers of receivers going on in GM.
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Thanks for all the info Inland! If I'm reading this right I have an earlier model carbine that may have seen service in WWII, was refurbed and then shipped overseas to see duty somewhere else and then refurbed again overseas or maybe back here after it was re-imported. As I said earlier I'm pretty new to carbines so this is all quite interesting to me, I just want a grasp on what it is I have. What do you guys think the value on this rifle would be? Considering its an import/overseas rebuild does that significantly lower the value? That's all I was really looking to do, just clean up some of the dirt behind the receiver and butt where hands and face constantly sit and leave it at that. Gun shoots quite well and is pretty accurate from the few times I've shot it so far. It will look nice sitting next to its big brother in the gun cabinet, a '53 H&R Garand
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I would guess a value in the $500 to $600 range. Values change with different parts of the country it seems so it could be a bit more or less.
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