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    Nazi HP35 (real deal?) Pics

    Hello folks

    I recently traded an Old Model Ruger Blackhawk for this Nazi HP35.

    These pics are all I have of it.

    I've never seen the real deal before so this is a bit of a gamble for me.

    This is what the seller told me about it

    "When you look inside the barrel you would think that the gun was never fired. I have never had any feeding issues with this pistol either.

    This pistol was manufactured by prisoners under supervision of the Nazi's in Belgiumicon so the finished of the weapon shows milling marks in certain places. Round count is hard to say, so I do not know, but the pistol looks near new.

    The pistol comes with nazi stamps - eagle is engraved on the frame - but not the magazine or holster.No lanyard ring on her.

    Serial number is 34854 and WAa140 is stamped on the frame.

    Inscription on the slide:
    Fabrique Nationale D`Armes De Guerre
    HERSTAL-BELGIQUE


    'MR' is engraved on the trigger guard and The letter 'C' under the gun (on
    the frame) back of floor plate magazine."


    So with that information can any of you good chaps clarify that this is indeed a FN - Nazi model of HP35?

    Here are the Pictures:
    http://rodandgun.sslpowered.com/cgnpics/nazi1.jpg
    http://rodandgun.sslpowered.com/cgnpics/nazi2.jpg

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    I doubt the grips are original. Have seen a number of Germanicon HPs over the years, and have not seen anything like these before. The FN plant operated during the occupation period. I do not know that the workers were prisoners; although I'm sure that being a Belgian working in a German supervised arms plant would not have been a particularly pleasant job. The frame serial doesn't seem to be clear. Was it scrubbed, or is it just the photo? I do not know what pattern of serials was used on occupation Brownings. Machining marks could certainly be expected, depending on when the pistol was made.
    FWIW, at one stage, magazines for Polish Radom pistols are reported to have been manufactured in a workshop in the Warsaw Ghetto.

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    The pics are far from conclusive, but it mostly looks OK. The grips MAY be original but that crude checkering on them is not. Replacements shouldn't be too difficult to source.
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    It is a dead ringer for one a friend of mine used to own. I do believe the grips for that era gun (mid to late war) are black plastic with pressed in checkering,H.T.H.-SDH

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    Ya the grips worry me a little.
    Looks like a home made set
    Even looks like they varnished them while still attached to the handgun.

    There is a good chance that this model does not have the magazine safety. Ther Germans apparently saw this as needless Belgian safety concern and did not duplicate it. Personally I agree.

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    The WaA 140 BHP which I had did not have a mag safety. The trigger was mfg without it.

    Supposedly the WaA 140 inspected guns (being late war) were more subject to sabotage than the other inspectors.

    The actual serial ranges of the Germanicon occupation guns are well known, it should be fairly easy for you to find on the internet.

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    The trigger was mfg without it.
    What is MFG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riflechair View Post
    What is MFG?
    MFG = Manufactured

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    Grips on the war time FN manufactured pistols that were Nazi marked were normally a dark brown colour. I have seen one pistol with black grips, however I suspect they are replacment. You should be able to tell if the grips are home made by looking on the inside of the grips. Being made under german occupation, they will probably have a number, either stamped or written on the wood inside of the grip. Quality of finish on the inside should also be a hint...

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    The serial number is 34854 and I do not know its manufacture year. Serial # is the same on the barrel , frame and slide.

    I suspect she is a late war model.

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