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Bought my first M1 Carbine and have questions...
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12-10-2009 04:13 PM
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My serial number is basically in the exact same place, though I do not have an Israeli marking on the other side of the butt though. Is there anything I can do about that rear sight though? Should I leave it or get a new one, if that's possible? It's at the first slot point (100 yards) and I've read these aren't that accurate past 200yards anyway, so I'll probably just leave it how it is.
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That's not Israeli markings on the other side, but the original cartouches from when the stock was made in WW2. You may find traces of black paint in some nooks and crannies, as they would sometimes paint their firearms black like Sten guns.
I would replace the rear sight. My sight is dead on at 150 with the 200 yard setting, and since that is the limit of useful range, I haven't changed it. It is nice to be able to adjust windage.
It needs to be driven out from LEFT to RIGHT when looking at it from the butt end. A sight installation/removal tool is best. If you are handy, though, you can find a tutorial on how to do it with a padded vice. You have to be carful, though, not to mess up the sight bridge.
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Alright cool, that sounds like a good idea then. I found one of the flip sights for $20 online but that removal tool was $99! How risky is doing it yourself? Haha!
Oh, and thank you for the help! That's interesting to know that it was probably sent to Israel at some point.
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I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THIS: BUT HERE IS HOW I DID IT:
I securely anchored the receiver in a padded vice, not too tight. First I soaked it with liquid wrench. I used a 1/8 inch brass drift and a brass hammer and placed the drift on the bottom of the sight on the dove tail portion. I tapped straight left to right, drifting it out. Used reverse process to drive in.
It is a good idea to make an index mark on the front of the bridge where there peep sight is center, so you have a reference. Most carbines I have seen tend to have the sights just left of center to be on.
Anyone else, PLEASE feel free to come up with additions, alternatives, or caveats!
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Hmm, I just noticed that there is a blatant mark on my Carbine where you told me to make a mark for remember where the peep sight lines up. Interesting, I wonder if bubba already tried to do this before. I'm not sure I wanna risk doing this, but at the same time I don't have $100 to spend on the removal tool only to use it once. Maybe I'll wait till I get to shoot it first and see how accurate it is.
On the other hand the fact that the sight is messed up will bother me to no end, haha! I wonder if I could break that solder somehow and fix or buy a new windage adjuster knob. Any ideas?
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Go on gunbroker or e-bay and get a type 2 or 3 sight about $35.00 and do the sight job like rangemaster suggested. Just remember it goes out left to right and in right to left. Also lube it up good, you will have a good adjustable rear sight.....Frank
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Thank You to frankderrico For This Useful Post:
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The tool is nice if you have the $$$. If I keep acquiring carbines, I will get one. You should be alright, though, if you do it slowly and make sure you are driving it straight out, left to right. Soak with liquid wrench for 24 to 48 hours, lube well, then FIRM TAPS a little at a time, not big whacks with a BIG hammer! I have replaced one this way, and adjusted several that were drifted too far to one side.
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Nice looking carbine.
Being from NY, I too have a couple of NPM.
Both great running carbines.
From the photo it looks as if the ramp site if push all the way forward, not back at the 1st notch.
( I could be wrong, little hard to see with all the snoot of solder there).
If so, there isn't a notch to hold the ramp all the way forward, from my experience on my carbines.
When we plink at 50yds, I find this position to be great, but since there is no notch , the sight keeps clicking up to the 1st notch/ 100 yd position after every shot.
So maybe bubba decided he liked it all the way forward, and soldered it into position.
For plinking I found the ramp sights are great.
So as others have said , maybe just get another and replace.
I have an all original inland, with flip sights. They work well, but who wants to drift the sight for windage.... so for a shooter I prefer the ramp style.