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    Carbine Williams movie

    Anyone have a DVD they want to sell?
    I'm hesitant to spend $25 on Amazon when I don't kow if it is any good. Netflix does not have it.
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    What do you mean 'if its any good'? A carbine person would want this movie just because it exists. Imagine a Hollywood movie today about a gun mechanic, who was also a felon, that had a major effect on the design of the M1icon Carbine.

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    What do you mean 'if its any good'? A carbine person would want this movie just because it exists. Imagine a Hollywood movie today about a gun mechanic, who was also a felon, that had a major effect on the design of the M1icon Carbine.
    Yes, but I took my wife to the Reno 911 movie, she's a cop but said it was the worst movie ever.
    My point is, an interest in the subject doesn't make it good.

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    If you really want to learn about Carbine Williams, get your local library to order a copy of the Beardicon book. I read it last month. It is a good look into the life of a talented sociopath.
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    If you really want to learn about Carbine Williams, get your local library to order a copy of the Beardicon book. I read it last month. It is a good look into the life of a talented sociopath.
    I'll check that book out too.

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    You've obviously never seen it. Buy it! There is a colorized version, but I think the original B&W is still the best.

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    I don't have a copy but I've seen the movie several times, it's pretty good. Jimmy Stewart does a good job of loosely portraying Williams in a much more favorable light that what was probably true. Unlike John C. Garand who actually invented the M1icon rifle, Williams did not invent the M1 carbine. He was on the Winchester team that did develop it and they used his patent for the short stroke piston. The project manager for Winchester does not speak kindly of Williams, saying he was prone to temper tantrums, sullenness and pouting if he didn't get his way.

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    Resurrecting an old thread here.......I understand that Williams did impose on the design team that they use his short-stroke piston, which, considering the cartridge, was probably a good thing. However, he actually was developing his own design light rifle on the side - nobody ever said he was a team player - but didn't get it finished until AFTER the Winchester Light Rifle was adopted as the M1icon Carbine. The head of the Winchester design team did acknowledge that William's rifle was the better of the two, just too late.

    If you look at an M1 Rifle (Garand) and M1 Carbine side by side, the similarities are obvious. Winchester, who had just gotten their production of M1 Rifles underway, obviously was inspired by Mr. Garand's rifle when designing the bolt, op rod, etc. of the carbine - the main departure, of course, being the gas system. This is likely fortuitous, however, if you compare the cartridges. The .30-06 holds a LOT of powder, and generates a LOT of propellant gas with which to push that long-stroke piston - a big ol' steam-locomotive "CHUFF". That little .30 Carbine round, however, must generate something more akin to bug fart!

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    If you consider 40,000 psi a bug fart. The 30 carbine generates 4/5Th's the pressure of the 30-06.

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