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    New woodwork

    Hi guys, I'm going to put together a P14 from parts. I've got a mint barelled action and a donor rifle for the rest. I am considering getting a Boyds 1917 stock set to put it in, and reblue all the small parts so as to get a nice new looking rifle.
    I havn't done a P14 before, anyone have any thoughts on these wood sets or pitfalls to avoid?
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    avoid boyds stock sets, spend the money and get a real issue stock.
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    tbone,the p14 and m1917 stocks are not interchangable ,at least not with some wittling,in the magazine and trigger gaurd area.--charles

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    I have often seen stock sets on gun broker.
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    Tbone,
    paulseamus brought a boyds for a project rifle and unfortunately they are not what you would call even close to original for fit internally. Don't know what they are copying off but she must be a hybrid, the wood is of nice grain and colour though. i did a k31 into a sporter stock from boyds and much much nicer and more even fit.

    Take it from the others, try and fins an original new set!
    I know of one guy in germany who exports them but his name escapes me at the moment and i think a couple of the big gunshops have them occasionally or the gunbroker thing but then you have to get a private person to export it.

    Anyway love to see the rifle if possible in a project write like your others. I am waiting for the paerwork to come back from firearms branch so i can marry the wood with the steel again on my M17, lovely walnut timber with a hint of tiger stripe, will post a pictorial when it all happens.
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    Try Sarco for P14 stocks and handguards. They list proper P14 stocks for about $150. Don't know the condition. The Boyds price at $144 is now about the same as the original stocks from Sarco, so there is no real cost savings anymore like there was earlier this year. Plus Sarco has NOS handguards and all of the stock hardware. I asked for Eddystone stock hardware to match my action and barrel and that's what they sent.

    There seems to be a difference in some P14/ M1917 parts like trigger guards so a Boyds probably wouldn't work well anyway. Also, you'd have to inlet for the Boyds stock for the stock disc and reshape the fore end for the volley sights.

    That said, because of the cost and availability of decent, not great, condition original M1917 stocks earlier this year, I used a Boyds to 're-militarize" an October 1918 M1917 Eddystone last summer. Overall I was very happy with the end result using the Boyds. it took about a month of evening/weekend work for my 19 yr old son and me, mostly shaping the outside of the stock--lots of wood to work with. The action/barrel inletting is very close, but outside shaping takes most of the work. My experience is that if you take your time and plan it out, you can have a very nice stock.

    Sarco is now listing M1917 stock sets again also.
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    Right'o, I've got a stock that's okay, and a NOS rear guard, so I'll get a NOS front guard and leave it at that, the original ones are just pretty ratty, and I want it to present well as well as shoot like a ripper! I'll post the build, which in this case will be pretty much an assembly, + bedding in timber.,

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    There is a fair bit of work with the Boyds stocks. Externally they are oversized in most dimensions by 2 to 3 mm. Lots of rasping and sanding to get it down to the right dimensions. If you have the time, this is OK as you are determining the final shape and finish.

    Internally the bedding appears to be OK.

    When they are machined, the trigger guard and mag well appear to be 3mm to far back in relation to the receiver.

    You can either move the receiver back or move the trigger guard forward. I have moved the guard forward and all appears ok except for the gaps to the rear of the guard.

    I have a spare Boyd's unfinished stock. i am happy send it to you so that you can see the fit yourself.

    With your experience and skills fitting a Boyd's would be easier than you recent projects

    Let me know if you want me to post you the stock.

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