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    Any way to ID a NM rifle made by a specific unit?

    I wanted to see if I could get some info or help IDing a garand I looked at today and may purchase.
    I didnt have my camera with me so I couldnt get any pics but I wrote down some of the info.

    SA 4.3 mil conversion to 7.62 marked in silver on top of the front of the receiver. It also looks like it has a faint 7.62 stamped in the flat of the receiver behind the rear sight. NM rear sight and the front sight is marked .62 on the side.

    Stock(Birch) has been glass bedded, the bedding is a dark brown color not the yellowish color that is on my NM M1icon. The top of the hammer has been polished. The sear has been ground down to a sharp angle. The bottom of the barrel near the receiver has been polished, no markings on the side of the barrel. The front hand guard(walnut) has been screwed to the lower band and it looks like the screw heads have been ground flat.

    The story I was told is that the mans dad received this garand when he retired from the Corps around 1969. He was the OIC at the armory on Quantico?

    It was in a hard rifle case and on the cover was stenciled G.F. Kenner USMC

    I was curious if you knew if this practice was going on at the time? His son does not have any paperwork just what his dad had told him.

    Thanks for any info

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM14thBN View Post
    I wanted to see if I could get some info or help IDing a garand I looked at today and may purchase.
    I didnt have my camera with me so I couldnt get any pics but I wrote down some of the info.

    SA 4.3 mil conversion to 7.62 marked in silver on top of the front of the receiver. It also looks like it has a faint 7.62 stamped in the flat of the receiver behind the rear sight. NM rear sight and the front sight is marked .62 on the side.

    Stock(Birch) has been glass bedded, the bedding is a dark brown color not the yellowish color that is on my NM M1icon. The top of the hammer has been polished. The sear has been ground down to a sharp angle. The bottom of the barrel near the receiver has been polished, no markings on the side of the barrel. The front hand guard(walnut) has been screwed to the lower band and it looks like the screw heads have been ground flat.

    The story I was told is that the mans dad received this garand when he retired from the Corps around 1969. He was the OIC at the armory on Quantico?

    It was in a hard rifle case and on the cover was stenciled G.F. Kenner USMC

    I was curious if you knew if this practice was going on at the time? His son does not have any paperwork just what his dad had told him.

    Thanks for any info

    Chris
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    Smaj, please share with us what you find out. These stories are interesting.

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    Well here are some pics of the rifle. I still dont have any more info except the guy will try and find any paperwork his dad may have received when he was given the gun. MW is 1+. He also has some extra parts, op rod, stock and some tools.



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    Top of Barrel


    Trigger group work


    Bedding




    Front end


    gas cylinder


    rear sight

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    I would have expected a USGI 7.62mm barrel. A little odd not to see that. 1970 had piles of USGI barrels in regular inventory.

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    It looks USAF. USAF loved to polish the underside "op rod" area of the barrel like that, and loved the high gloss urethane stock finish. Maybe it was done by an armorer "inspired" by the USAF....

    I agree commercial bbl. unusual in that time frame...

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