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Looks like a home made box to me. We had two sorts and none of them were like that! Looks like one of the magazines is from an FN, - missing the L1A1 front lug ?
MMmm, LOOKs like the box is home made to Me as well. The Original Labels were DARK Black Printed ones. This label has been done on a Typewriter. Also, if you look carefully, the internal section walls. Do Not all come up to the same height & there are gaps between the joins. These were finished off on a sanding machine & were uniform in appearance.
AND, they WERE uniformly paint sprayed inside. A Sateen Green colour that was smooth.
This 'Example' is left in the natural colour wood state. I have NEVER seen this in British Service Examples!
They were also manufactured from Hardwood. THIS example appears in a different wood to the an original. This one LOOKs like it's pine from the photo. But I may be wrong of course! The wood grain APPEARS wide & coarse. Hardwood originals grain, were so close. You couldn't really see any grain. But it is a few years since I looked at one close up!............
Also, IIRC, I THINK they had metal edge corner protectors fitted? Also, I THINK the screws for the hinges were slotted head. NOT Crosshead Versions. Just My Thoughts on this!..............
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Originally Posted by
tankhunter
MMmm, LOOKs like the box is home made to Me as well
Originally Posted by
tankhunter
I have NEVER seen this in
British Service Examples!
I'm Canadian. This looks like one of ours. Perhaps through time we had to make up replacements. But it sure looks like what we had. Don't get me wrong, it may not be original HK issue, but we live so far out on the farm that when things got shabby, we'd have to get workshop or trade Pioneers to fab one up. Then we'd use it for the duration. But I'll bet this was as is on the CQ's shelf.
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It's just in the shadow. Note the two mags. One with the plastic insert riveted in and the other with steel. The Canadian kits had one of each. The steel makes the magazine feel close to the same weight of 20 rounds of 7.62.
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Fresh to me from the mailman, here is a photo of a Canadian kit. The box is a repaint, but they placed some tape over the Canadian NSN. The original color was the lighter green, similar to the WW2 color they painted the Cno7 chests. The later color is the same repaint color used on the Cno7 chests, the semi gloss green. Whoever repainted it replaced the kit serial number on it, but got it wrong, as it differs from the original kit number underneath.
I talked to the former LCMM about these kits on the weekend, and he confirmed that Canada used British components on the early kits at least. My kit backs this up. The barrel has the British broadarrow, and also has the Cdn NSN stamped in it. The remainder of the kit is broadarrow marked, and my mags have the German (12 for the country code) number on them. Note that Canada dropped official use of it's version of the broadarrow (the C/l\) back in 1948, so these are not this country's marks.
Unfortunately, the tag in the kit was torn away at some point, so I will have to get a shot of an original and replace it. What miracles we can do with computers and inkjet printers these days.
Enough yammering on, here are the shots:
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Here is the collectors source barrel photo (12 in the NSN) and the photo of my barrrel (21 in the NSN) . I have noted HK barrels in our system that did not have any NSNs.
I also posted a photo of the CS box and of mine. The latches of mine, along with the re-enforced corners, is much more typical of military overbuild than the CS one.
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Case is marked for CFOCS...Canadian Forces Officer Candidate School (Chilliwack). By the way Stencollector, I suppose last weekend you were at Calgary...meant to mention it so we could all chat in passing.
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Yes Jim I was. I wish you had mentioned it, but who knows, maybe we did talk. I was the guy with the M2HB on my table amongst other guns like Bren, sten, and Enfields. I made the buy of the decade in Enfield parts, but that is another story unrelated to this FN thread. Suffice it to say, there will be very little I will have to buy for Canadian rifles for some time to come. Ahhh, if only this were an enfield thread I would post photos.
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I was at your table many times...
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Small world when we collect Enfields.
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Our H&K kits also cxame with a little dark red coloured H&K user handbook. Printed in English but some came printed in German! The little booklet had a code number in the Index To Publications handbook (known as the IP book) so were readily available
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