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Yes, they can be alright for some time, but we saw them when they came in for repair, much more than a few thousand rounds. If buying a used one look for a dark ring foerward of the chamber, you maybe able to see a bulge or markings on the outside of the subcal barrel as well.
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09-05-2009 06:03 PM
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L12a1
Does anyone out there own one of the KIT, sub calibre, L12 A1 or Conversion kit .22" sub calibre L12A1 depending on where you are? You know, the boxed conversion kit for converting the L1A1 to fire .22". The same kit was also available for the FN, using FN formatted magazines of course
Would there be any demand for a thread on these things?
I have an L12A1 made by H&K and dated 1973.
I use it more than anything else in my L1A1, and its certainly accurate enough to hunt rabbits with.
I only have two problems with it, I get alot of stoppages where the bolt rides over the top of the next round in the mag on its way forward and pushes the rim of the cartridge down and the front up.
The second problem is I run out of ammo way to quickly. I can go through 500 rounds in a session easily switching between iron sights, SUIT sight and the PVS-2 which is much fun at night
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That's what I was talking about, post ammo let down. Check mag springs and mag lips for servicability.
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That's what I was talking about, post ammo let down. Check mag springs and mag lips for servicability.
I stripped the mag down and found the feed lips were quite rough, a little bending and some polishing seems to have cured the problem.
I got through two full mags with only two misfires from dicky primers.
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Now if you could only run them in full auto...You'll have to believe me, that was priceless. The golpher population never knew what happened. When I actually hit them!
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Now if you could only run them in full auto...You'll have to believe me, that was priceless. The golpher population never knew what happened. When I actually hit them!
Its certainly on the list of thigs to try now its running well.
We can own SLRs with original recievers over here.
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Barrels that were bulged in place were certainly a way of life for us Armourers in the UK. There were special instructions regarding this in the EMER's. But that apart, good little plinkers.
Who'se got all the sub-cal magazines though?
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Towards the end of the F.N. service life, (1987) the parts that went unserviceable tended to be gashbinned and in some cases rifles or kits were cannibalised. Therefore the disappearing act. That was the way they ran it in the praries anyway. What say you Will?
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Just a thought about the little L12 SLR sub calibre kits. We had a period with a niggling problem where there were hundreds of reports of mis-fires to the ICI ammunition supplied. This was put down to everything, from the winter equinox to the greasy ammo etc etc.
Eventually it was decided to increase the firing pin protrusion to between .035 and .039". This was a bit of a bugger because no gauge was ever provided. BUT, the criteria for the No7 and No8 (and I resume the No9 too.....) was between .034"low and .038" high. So that gauge was used by all!
There. If you do get mis-fires or light strikes. then you can increase the FPP to this standard. How do you INCREASE the FPP? Easy. Mount the head of the firing pin in the lathe and gently skim back the shoulder immediately behind the parallel firing pin part. It should only need a gnats knacker or a few .001" 's
Do you need a new barrel as a result of your note above Will M
Next question?
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I have been casually searching for one of these kits for some time. The G3 subcaliber kits show up a bit often here in the US (usually priced around $600 or more US), but I have never heard or seen a L12A1 kit here except for the pictures in my User Handbook! I wonder with the bans in place for ownership on many firearms in the UK, have most items now gone "underground" and any associated knowledge as well? While traveling, I only happened across a few surplus shops and they only seemed to carry modern items and reproductions of kit. Attended the War and Peace show while there (2006), and did not see one there either? I guess if any existed, they are scattered across the collective countryside now in single units, not in depot sized quantities. Did India develop a sub caliber kit for their rifles?
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