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    PMC carbine, Is it really a commercial Plainfield? What about barrel?

    RECEIVER

    Recently acquired a carbine simply coded P M C on rear of receiver.
    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ce/pmccopy.jpg

    I assume this is for Plainfield Machine Co but can’t confirm with War Baby I, II or Reisch. In fact, fig 729, page 750 states that Plainfields are “blank behind rear sight”. If it is Plainfield, could it be a very early model? It is an investment casting.

    Plainfield markings are supposed to be on the front of the receiver per WB II, page 750.
    Mine has no marking there.
    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...fgcodecopy.jpg

    There is a SN on the left front which does agree with WB.
    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...20piece/SN.jpg

    BARREL

    Is very unique. Cannot ID from books. Only marking is on top rear of barrel.
    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...fgcodecopy.jpg

    Gas cylinder is separate piece with a straight front face but has no pin for removal. Also, the barrel has an added stepdown just fwd of where gas cylinder is attached.
    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...gascylcopy.jpg

    Muzzle has a flat face but no bevel on outside. Bevel is on the INSIDE.
    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ebevelcopy.jpg

    Muzzle wear approx -1.
    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...wear-1copy.jpg

    Additional barrel info:
    18” long.
    Appears to be a 2 groove, but grooves are wide.
    Has smooth black exterior finish. No rework apparent.
    Bore appears chrome lined. Am thinking a type D (WB page 285)
    Has short skirt.
    One inch behind front sight, dia measures .580. This is .017 less than the .597-.600 std spec.

    Could the barrel be a turned down 1903 Springfield mfg by Small Arms Co., Bridgeville, Penn? (WB page 749)

    The entire carbine shows practically no wear even on bolt lugs.
    It came equipped with an M3 sniper IR scope mount bar with vintage Weaver scope. See CMP Discussion Forum - Unusual find, pictures and some questions

    Have posted on the CMP forum as well.

    Would appreciate any comments/input regarding this carbine.
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    your barrel is of the two groove 1903 variety. some of the early commercial makers used 1903 barrels. i had what appeared to be an early BullsEye carbine, it was marked BullsEye on the receiver under the woodline and had the same type two groove 03 barrel. the receiver was very well made and the balance of the parts were all G.I. even had a type1 barrel band with the type2 swivel but the stock had German makings in the slingwell; the stock per WB2 was made in Germanyicon by the markings.

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    Thanks, Stu1
    Glad to learn about the barrel. My internals were also all GI, mostly late Inland though. Is well made and should shoot fine. Had a nice NPM stock on it that I will transfer to another piece.
    Thanks again.

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