Mosin Nagant M44 - "Sticky Bolt" Syndrome

[louthepou]

Once you have the rifle, feel free to provide us with a range report when you try it

[PrivatePaula]

I will... and I'll post some pics of it too.
Thanks again for your help!

[Schwehn]

Does anyone have a tip for removing a jammed shell from a Nagant M1891? I have never had this issue before, a bit of sticky bolt sometimes but this one cartridge is stuck in the chamber and I can't open the bolt. I was hoping someone might know a trick to get it out, cause I have tried just to muscle the bolt open but to no success.

[Sailorman]

The obvious question PP . . . why not buy them both, and have a good start toward a WWII collection?

[jmoore]

Does anyone have a tip for removing a jammed shell from a Nagant M1891? I have never had this issue before, a bit of sticky bolt sometimes but this one cartridge is stuck in the chamber and I can't open the bolt. I was hoping someone might know a trick to get it out, cause I have tried just to muscle the bolt open but to no success.

If the bolt HANDLE won't move at all then you do have dramas.

First drop a cleaning rod down the bore to ENSURE its not somehow still loaded!

1. If it will move a wee bit, spray penetrating oil down the muzzle and let soak a day or two.(Might be best to remove the stock first.) Apply some lube to the cam above the chamber and where ever else you like. Then tap on the underside of the handle w/ a large plastic or lead deadblow hammer. Not too hard just a bit. If nothing, mount the assembly in a vise and repeat w/ increasing force. Eventually, something will give. Fortunately, its extremely unlikely that you will damage anthing major (or expensive).

Note: Be prepared to break your extractor! Either it or the case will fail if the fired case won't budge.

If the case didn't come out when the bolt opens, you'll have to drive it out from the muzzle. Really, really don't try this w/ a stuck loaded round! Aside from the danger it tends to stick things together worse.


2. If the bolt handle won't move at all before you start, don't start the above process w/o eliminating other variables first! And don't expect happy things.

HTH

[jmoore]

Hey, secret organizer of threads! This might go best in the Soviet weapons forum. Delete this post if you want, or I'll do it later.

[bearhunter]

gunner, we have a special "explosives" branch in Canada, that has taken it upon itself to enforce the letter of the law. Most surplus ammunition and many commercial loadings are only allowed into the country, after much red tape and expensive testing, not to mention, a complete list of all the componenents and their coumpound make up.
Hand loading cartridges from Privi or S&B, is a good way to go. It's usually cheaper, to buy the first round loaded, then hand load the cases thereafter. Buying bullets, powder and primers in bulk, can be cheaper but not always. Cases, if not loaded to maximum pressures, will virtually last forever. I have cases with over 40 reloads on them. Again, moderation at the powder measure is the key. Usually, the lighter loads, are more accurate anyway.
It is pretty easy to figure out how many reloads it will take to pay for your set up. You may also have space limitation issues but there are some novel and innovative ways around that as well. In the end, if you are happy, shooting 20 rounds a month, getting into hand loading is not really worth it. Usually, there is someone around, that will load for you. Don't forget about cast bullets, they can be a very cheap alternative.
One other thing to consider, in Europe, Berdan primers are readily available and relatively cheap. In Canada, they are like finding hens teeth and very expensive. With the availability of Berdan primers, even the steel cased stuff, can be reloaded. Don't forget about cast lead bullets either. They can provide a much cheaper alternative and are very friendly to your rifles.

[mdrim13]

It is the ammo as said before. The gun gets hotter with each shot and the lacquer melts then sticks in the chamber. I had this problem. I switched to brass ammo and had no problems for hundreds of shots. DO NOT USE THE AMMO IN THE GREEN LACUER STEEL CASE AND YOU WILL BE FINE!!! ENJOY

[lee sherman]

Ah, yes the Mosin M-44 rifle. I have one that I enjoy very much. I refinished the stock and cleaned it up as required. It turned out quite marvelous. I suggest a rubber buttpad available from several U.S. gun people. They cost about $15.00 bucks or so. They screw right on using the original screws etc. I think they will sell these out of country. Try a website called combathunting.com for Mosin Accesories. Hey, your English and spelling are far better than most of us and hell were residents!! I spent a year and a half in Butzbach, Germany from Aug. 69, till Dec. 70. The U.S. Army required my services. LOL. Good luck with your Mosin.Oh, don't forget to tuck it in tight before trigger pull. It's ok, it's a good hurt!!