I know I am late: Just saw Valkyrie

[Bob Womack]

So the unfortunately useless death of the courageous german officers had no influence on the end of war. That`s my opinion.

Regards,

Gunner

I think you are right, Gunner. It did, however, show the world that there were men of character within Germany who were willing to make great sacrifices to try.

Bob

[John Sukey (Deceased)]

No point in watching the movie, I already knew the plot and the ending

Hollywood is certainly running out of ideas. Either that or someone discovered this storeroom with a load of neat uniforms they hadn't used for a while.

Not to mention I really don't like Tom Cruise and his whacky religion.

[gunner]

Hi Bob,

the rest of heavy water they brought from norway to germany was found in a former mine near the Bodensee in southern bavaria. The german engineers had a lab there. A physicist said there was only around 700 litres to few to build the bomb. So the norwegian agent did a good job. Nice to have contact to an also in history interested person.

Best regards,

Gunner

[Bob Womack]

Hi Bob,

the rest of heavy water they brought from norway to germany was found in a former mine near the Bodensee in southern bavaria. The german engineers had a lab there. A physicist said there was only around 700 litres to few to build the bomb. So the norwegian agent did a good job. Nice to have contact to an also in history interested person.

Best regards,

Gunner

Thanks for that information! I'd heard all kinds of stories about it - that they we nowhere near, that they were right on the edge being able to proceed. The best I had been able to put together was that the Norwegian ferry raid was what saved us from having to deal with a nuclear equipped Nazi government. You've confirmed that. Thanks again.

Bob

[Ken C.]

No point in watching the movie, I already knew the plot and the ending

Hollywood is certainly running out of ideas. Either that or someone discovered this storeroom with a load of neat uniforms they hadn't used for a while.

Not to mention I really don't like Tom Cruise and his whacky religion.

Amen to everything said by John!!
The Japs were also working towards a nuclear bomb. I remember seeing a picture of a cyclotron being dumped into Tokyo bay in 1945. I wonder if they would be apologizing to US now had their side won????? (woops, thats another thread)

[jon_norstog]

Of course it helped that we received intelligence about the heavy water work at Telemark, Norway, and a group of British-trained Norwegian commandos bombed the heavy water plant, bringing production to a temporary halt and increasing security in the area. The result was a series of bomber raids that convinced the Germans to abandon the plant. In 1944, they attempted to move the plant's stored output of heavy water to Germany by train. A Norwegian agent then bombed the train ferry carrying the entire product of the plant, sending it to the bottom of a deep fjord and ending the program.

Bob

More HERE.

The Haukelieder and the Norstogs were one family that kind of split up around 1870 or so. The Haukelieder stayed at Haukelea and the Norstogs move to Norstog. Well, my cousin Knut Haukelid was a subsistence hunter in the '30s. When the war came, he and his friends hooked up with the British and got some training at a castle in Scotland.
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They were taken back to Norway and went to ground, living in alpine huts and snow caves and eating what they could kill. Knut led the attack on the power plant where the Germans were making heavy water. The Germans rebuilt the plant and put a full battalion in to guard it. There wAS NOT GOING TO BE A REPEAT of the previous successful attack.

The Germans had to move the heavy water out in drums, by truck. The route included a ferry ride. The British thought the best thing was to blow the ferry, so they sent out the directions and materiel. Knut was the man who set up the operation.

I guess the heavy water is still down there at the bottom. Knut always regretted the innocent Norwegians he killed in the operation. He was haunted by the blood he shed in the war, especially that operation.

jn

[Bob Womack]

Wow, it is fun to close a loop like this. There have been all kinds of spurious reports that the drums sunk on the ferry were simply decoys, etc. I read a report on a 2005 expedition that raised a barrel of that heavy water and, by checking its concentration against German records, found that it was, indeed, the heavy water from the Vemork plant.

Bob

[gunner]

Hi Bob,
saw the report on History Channel they also said it is the heavy water.

Hi Jon,

Great story. You can be proud of this family member. He has done a great job under extrem dangerous conditions.

Regards,

Gunner

[Buckeye Shooter]

Saw the movie last night. I'm glad I didn't spend the money at the theater. I kinda knew that Tom Cruz was going to stink and he did. In fact, I didn't see any good acting. Not one memorable actor at all.