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    ZF-41 Questions

    I have looked at the ZF-41 mounts and scopes sold by Numrich and the mount sold by Accumount. I have also seen one base represented as original listed on eBay by a fellow in Franceicon. The Numrich base and mount are a little different from the Accumount product and this is the origin of my question.

    Both the Numrich and Accumount product uses a new manufacture base with a rail to which the mount is attached. On both products, the rail is manufactured as a part of the base that fits into the base that is soldered to the barrel. Is this the way the original ZF-41 mounts were made? Or did the originals instead have the rail made as an integral part of the base that was soldered to the barrel?

    Anyone have any thoughts or comments about the quality, workmanship, etc. of these repros? I'm interested in one as a representative display for an original.

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    I have not seen the "repros", but in the original setup, the rail for the scope mount was machined as part of a specially made fixed rear sight base or visierfuss ("sight foot" - the part that was soldered to the barrel). Installing the new base would have been a job for an armorer.

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    A quick check for original vs reproduction scope rail / base is that the original base and rail required the stock to be relieved on the left side of the rifle. The repro rail, being higher, does not. If the top edge of the stock runs straight back with no dip, the mount is a repro.

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    Hi Bert ...

    Just so you could compare an "all correct" and original mount. As Jim says. they were integrated right into the barrel. I stripped the wood off an original factory manufactured 1942 "ar" ZF41 in my collection and took some pics of the sight mount and surrounding area for you.

    Hope this helps ..

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    Badger -

    Those are great photos and illustrate the base very well and answers my questions. I appreciate you taking the time to disassemble your rifle and take the photos.

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    Hey Guys, some time ago I got hassled big time on a Mauser forum by refering to my rifle as a ZF41. "They" said that ZF41 was the SCOPE not he rifle. The rifle is correctly refered to as a G-?. Nobody could tell me what the number is. What is it or is this just the usual collector crap?

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    Small screw on bottom of ZF-41 mount....?

    There is a very small pointed tip screw on the bottom front of the ZF-41 mount. I assume this is intended to be some type of lock screw to hold the scope in position? Can anyone elaborate? Won't the pointed tip of the screw damage the scope tube? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    There is a very small pointed tip screw on the bottom front of the ZF-41 mount. I assume this is intended to be some type of lock screw to hold the scope in position? Can anyone elaborate? Won't the pointed tip of the screw damage the scope tube? Thanks!
    Well, I'm not exactly sure which screw you're referring to Bert, but the mount above has the original scope that came with the rifle and it seems to be fins and unaffected by obvious signs of use.

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    The screw I am referring to is located on the bottom side of the front bracket of the scope mount. It is quite small, about the size of a grub screw, and it appears to seat just about flush with the underside of the mount. The tip of the screw is pointed and I assume it is intended to be some sort of locking screw to assure the scope does not rotate within the mount. I have looked through the Zf-41 manual and find no mention of it so I assume it is something only an armorer would have engaged or adjusted. I am curious whether this screw has damaged any scopes because it certainly looks to be able to punch a hole through the tube if over tightened.

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