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09-03-2009 01:39 AM
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Last edited by ireload2; 09-03-2009 at 04:57 AM.
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Time Out!
jmoore and ireload2,
This looks like a healthy debate. However,neither of you have answered the original poster, bvillars question. He's looking for milsurp 6.5 Carcano ammunition on chargers.
Reloading presents hazards to people that follow bad advice and if you want to debate reloading for the Carcano, you should start a new thread, keep it factual, provide your references and avoid attacking each other.
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Too right, sorry! My fault, I knew exactly where this was going and encouraged it. Wasn't quite done either, but fun time's over.
Most of the Italian surplus w/clips I've seen is the 7.35 stuff. Original military 6.5 is extremely uncommon in these parts, but some can still be found that had soft point bullets installed in the sixties (mostly) by Interarms and placed back in the old boxes complete w/ strippers. Its all "collectible" priced now unless you just stumble into some.
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Did this debate ever get sorted out? I finally found a 6.5 Carcano in the condition and price range I was looking for and want to reload my own rounds, but the more I research the more uncertain I am as to what setup/load data I should use. We have one person saying the load data in the Hornady manual is BS and another person saying it works fine for them. So what is it? I'm holding off buying dies and bullets and powder until I know what's best. Any clarification on this subject would be greatly appreciated. TIA
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I've still had no troubles. Try contacting Hornady- it's their data- If they won't stand behind it, then neither should you. I must say that the rifles I've used all have excellent bores! If it's rough or "frosted", you might just stick to factory ammo. That way there's a legal leg to stand on if something lets go. Hornady's ammo isn't all that expensive and useds their bullets. Prvi Partisan is cheaper, but accuracy is not so good in my experience. Norma ammo is really expensive AND isn't worth having, even for the brass! Ugh.
If ANYONE made 0.266" bullets I'd try them. Don't know of any, so what can you do?
I mean....well, ummm- who has more to lose, we internet "gurus", or a company that caters to folk passionate about really oddball calibers?
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Thank you for replying jmoore. So I take it you are using the .268 Hornady bullets without any problems, right? What dies are you using? I was told that the Lee Pacesetter dies are set up for .265 bullets, so does this mean the Lee dies will not work if I use the Hornady bullets? I tried calling Hornady yesterday to inquire about custom dies for the 6.5 Carcano, but they had the day off.
BTW, the bore, including the crown, on the M41 Carcano (Mfg. date is 1942) I bought is in excellent condition. The numbers are matching and the cleaning rod is there too. I was very happy to find it for $200. I am now searching for a good k98 and Moisin Nagant to complete my WW II rifle collection, all bolt action rifles except the M1.
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The Lee dies produce acceptable ammunition for us. (That's not a royal "us", they're shared about.)
The Lee shell holder was poo, however. (Too big or sloppy fitting to hold the cases securely!) Using an RCBS, instead.
My "Oswald Special" is quite accurate, indeed! No problem doing 1 1/2 MOA five or six shot groups. Many run a little smaller. Pretty amazing, I think!
The little folding bayonet carbine is about the worst, IIRC. 6 MOA groups, but it's consistant and the zero doesn't wander. OK for troopies who probably weren't front line infantry.
I've wondered why no one does a dual diameter bullet for these, like the original 264 Winchester Magnum design. Small in the front that rides the top of the lands, and a larger portion at the rear which is groove filling. More expensive, sure! But no worse than other premium niche market bullets.
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Link to a similar thread that may answer a few more questions:
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15002
I must not have added tags, that's been fixed!
Here's A link to an article that Badger had posted in another thread:
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=265
Last edited by jmoore; 11-27-2010 at 07:26 PM.
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