Tell me about the MAS1949

[happydude]

I'm starting to think I might fancy something a little different in a semi-auto milsurp. I'd prefer good brass life, which eliminates the SVT and Ljungman designs. I have no desire to reload 7.62x39, G43s are out of my price range, and Norinco M14's are not my cup of tea, and not milsurp in my opinion. It's going to be an FN49 or Garand, but that MAS1949 that P&S has is quite intriquing.

So what's the deal with these rifles, and what about 7.5x54ammo?

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[Skippy]

7.5 French ammo is commercially non-existant. But if you like to reload your own, it's basically a step up from the 7.62NATO round.
You can use all of the cponents for 7.62NATO to reload for 7.5 French, even the load data.

[Claven2]

Hornady publishes specific 7.5 French data. Brass can be made from 6.5x55 but just resizing it, or you can buy Frontier brass on the bay.

[Badger]

I don't know if you'll find this helpful or not, since it's not about the 1949 sem-auto, but I recently sold a French 1936 MAS. If you find a 1949 and enjoy it, then perhaps you might want to add a bolt action sister rifle to your collection to go with it.

The photo montage is still on display .....

1936 MAS French Service Rifle (Manufacture d'Armes de St-Etienne)
Caliber = 7.5x54 French

"French military bolt-action rifle model of 1936 made by Manufacture d'Armes de St-Etienne (MAS) in caliber 7.5x54 French. "MAS Mle 1936" marked on the left side of the receiver, has a two piece stock, and detachable spike bayonet concealed in the forearm. Serial numbers are matching on metal and wood. Condition is excellent, un-issued and unfired."


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1936 MAS Service Rifle (lots more detailed pics ... click here)

Regards,
Badger

[happydude]

So ammo can be made, good good. What about the rifles themselves, junkers or something worth shooting?

[sdh1911]

I'd go with the 49 hands down, I got the granddaddy, SAFN-49. This is one of the finest semi-autos I've owned, and that is many-SDH

PS Those French guns don't show much promise with the complete lack of ammo and the converts to .308 were complete failures

[Claven2]

I disagree. Here in Canada, 7.62 isn't cheap and plantiful, so 6 to one, half a dozen the other.

7.5 French brass is readily available from hornady and you can also make it by simply running 6.5 Swede brass through a 7.5 sizing die - no trimming required.

Just use 7.62 Data of the purpose-made data from Hornady.

i don;t have the MAS49, but I do shoot a MAS36 from time to time and they are a nifty rifle with a very capable round that in many ways has a slight edge over the 7.62 NATO (which the Americans basically copied from the 7.5, changing it just enough so it wouldn't be the same... lol. Same bullet, same load, slightly smaller base and slightly different shoulder angle - that's it!).

[sdh1911]

I haven't seen a can of 7.5 in years, I guess its a geographic thing. I read sometime last year that gun gun runs fine w.7.5, but, many problems when re-built to .308. Have you fellas gotten any of that new South African .308 ammo that has been floating around lately?-SDH

[Claven2]

We had the South African ammo maybe a year ago, but it's all shot up now with no sign of more comming. The last stuff we had in quantity was the portuguese FNM. It's now gone as well.

Cheap surplus in Cnaada is pretty much limited to Czech 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R. Very little else has been allowed to be imported by the Geheimstatzpolitzei at the department of Natural Resources where ammo importations are approved, or more appropriately, declined in recent years.

it's a "death by a thousand cuts" sort of aproach that our beurocracy has been systematically following to eventually kill the shooting sports for all but the financially elite with their commercial ammo and expensive safari guns...

[Lee Enfield]

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over the 7.62 NATO (which the Americans basically copied from the 7.5, changing it just enough so it wouldn't be the same... lol. Same bullet, same load, slightly smaller base and slightly different shoulder angle - that's it!).

Actually the 7.62 NATO cartridge's ancestry is a long necked .300 Savage, which predates 7.5 by @ 15 years.