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    4-digit question?

    Last year I bought a 4-digit reciever at auction, collected a bunch of early parts, GI walnut stock and handguards and an early complete trigger group. I sent it away to a good smith and had a Criterion barrel installed and everything parked to match. I didn't waste parts with decent original finish on this project. All the parts were servicable, most of them had 50% or less original finish and would have been tough to use on a restoration.


    Now I have a lovely 4-digit gun for Garandicon matches. I need to attach a value to the thing in case it disappears. I have well over 1k in parts and labor and it is beautiful. But it probably has little appeal to a serious collector, it is simply neat because it has a low s/n and some nice early parts.


    So what do we call this gun and what ballpark is the value?
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    Well, back in the day when I was spending a summer vacation at Parris Island, SC, if I had called it a "Gun" my ear would have been chewed off.

    There's an old antiquated saying. It goes something like this....

    "This is my Rifle, This is my GUN......."

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    add some for the 4 digit receiver
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    Criterion barrel? All parts parked to match? Early parts? Yes, $995.00 tops.

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    Unless you rounded up the gas trap bits (even the reproduction ones) there's no real premium for the rifle. Mind you, an early uncut op rod probably isn't the best thing to use in a shooter. If it's modded, well, drive on!

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    This must be another "Garand-shooter's" myth...

    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    ...Mind you, an early uncut op rod probably isn't the best thing to use in a shooter. If it's modded, well, drive on!
    Unless you are shooting rifle grenades, you won't have any problems shooting an un-cut op-rod. Think about it for a moment, millions and millions of such op-rods were fired in combat during World War II, and they didn't decide to modify them until after the War, largely due to cracks caused by shooting rifle grenades. As long as you shoot M2 ball, or equivalent rounds, shooting an un-cut op-rod is no big deal. HTH, KarlKW

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    Round up all your bills and receipts for parts and labor and shipping. You can insure it as a “custom rifle” or “as built”. You would be insuring your original documented investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlKW View Post
    Unless you are shooting rifle grenades, you won't have any problems shooting an un-cut op-rod. Think about it for a moment, millions and millions of such op-rods were fired in combat during World War II, and they didn't decide to modify them until after the War, largely due to cracks caused by shooting rifle grenades. As long as you shoot M2 ball, or equivalent rounds, shooting an un-cut op-rod is no big deal. HTH, KarlKW
    Old Wive's Tale with a bazillion lives - no oprods ever were operated, let alone cracked - by the firing of rifle grenades. A vented system is the ONLY system ever implemented for firing of rifle grenades with M1icon rifles.

    There was a war on, and oprod failures at the stress raiser in question didn't rate any kind of repair priority, but was indeed recognized as a design deficiency.
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    Old Wive's Tale with a bazillion lives
    Same as getting M1icon Thumb while loading a full clip, just never ends.

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    Old Wive's Tale with a bazillion lives

    And don't forget that deadly "Ping!" that could be heard over the din of battle.

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