9.3 Bullet Identification Help

[Jocko]

I've aquired some 9.3 bullets from my old gunsmith's inventory that I know he used for reloading the 9.3x62 Mauser rifle. These bullets have a 'R' inside a shield on the base of the boat tail. Copper tip - silver like body. There is 50 in a box, the box is plain cardboard - typed on the top of the box is >

50 Stck.
H.M. Cu Hsp 9,3-35-16,7g

Anybody have any idea what make these are and where they are from.

Thanks to all for the help.

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[Skip]

My guess is Stck is German and R is for Rhino use.

[jonnyc]

Probably the RWS Company. You can search for the details.

[Patrick Chadwick]

Yes, they are definitely German, and very probably RWS.

50 Stck. H.M. Cu Hsp 9,3-35-16,7g

A full German text would be:
50 Stück H-Mantel Kupfer Hohlspitzgeschoss Kaliber 9,3 35?? 16,7 grains

In English:
50 items. type H-jacketed, copper, hollow point projectile, caliber 9.3 mm, weight 16,7 grains. Should still be available from RWS.

I just can't work out what the 35 indicates.

Patrick

[jmoore]

Somewhat OT, but is the H-jacket similar to the Nosler Partition bullet?

[Cosine26]

I would suggest that the weight is measured in GRAMS not grains. A 16 grain bullet would be very light.

[Cosine26]

The “Stogers World Fair Edition Catalog” for 1939 lists both British and German (DWM) ballistics data. The British data is expressed in the familiar ‘foot-pound-second’ (fps) system while the German data is expressed in the metric ‘centimeter-gram-second' (cgs) system. Both Hatchers Notebook and Stogers list the conversion factor from grams to grains as 15.432. Since the bullet data lists the weight as 16.7 g (grams) there is no reason to use a conversion factor with any more precision than 15.4. Therefored the 9.3 mm bullet weight is probably close to:
16.7 g(Grams) x 15.4 = ~ 257 GRAINS.
Hope this helps.