Got VZ58 ?

[campperrykid]

Got VZ58 ? Just curious.
VZ58's have been available in Canada for a while. OOW built a US legal model for years , but they seem to have been a little too pricey to break into the market , compete with the upscale milled AK's , and become really popular.
The D-Technik's from the Czech Republic and the ORF builds were more affordable. They seem to be catching on in some circles.

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[jmoore]

Super rifles. Lighter and more accurate than most AK's. Safety is probably better for most RH users.Mags are tons lighter than AK mags and have a bolt hold open feature.

Downsides:
Scope mounting is a bit of a bother (if you're so inclined, at least in the US) and the buttplate is "squirmy" on the fixed stock model. Safety isn't LH user friendly (which is completely opposite the AK situation). Mags aren't AK!

[sandstorm]

AK are prohib in canada so VZ58 is the next closes thing .

it sells for $700 with 4 mags .

heres mine with FAB furniture and aimpoint T-1 micro.

[jmoore]

All the "tacticool" accessories that are available don't seem to get US exposure. Oh, well.

What kind of groups can you get w/ the Aimpoint?

[campperrykid]

I had completely given up hope of ever owning a VZ58 until theakforum.net had a group buy for the D-Technik model. The D-Tech's come in as single stackers from the Czech Republic and are 922r'ed in the US.

The D-Tech safety sweeps forward to fire . The Ohio Rapid Fire safety sweeps to the rear and feels very clumsy to me.
Theakforum.net followed up with a group buy of the ORF VZ58's. I prefer the D-Tech , but my ORF is an interesting gun as well. The ORF needed a little tweaking and is a little picky about magazines. It runs OK with FMJ in selected Mag's.
The D-Tech runs 100% ( so far ) with every brand ( Wolf , Barnaul , S&B , Gold Tiger etc ) and bullet type ( FMJ , HP , SP) in all of over 20 mag's that I have tested.
Ohio Ord Works recently lowered their VZ58 prices by several hundred.

[cosmo]

I have had mine for a three years and it has been completely reliable. I have not had the opportunity to compare it with an AK, but it is more accurate than an SKS.

[Stevo]

IMO the VZ58 is superior to the AK. Lighter, more accurate, more ergonomic and less recoil.

I own two of the Canadian market 18.5 inch barrel CZ 858 Tactical 2 versions (a mouthful of a name, to be sure) and they have proven reliable and accurate. I've run them in classes were I've put 3k of Czech ball down range over a 4 day period with nary a hiccup. I did have one malfunction which cause a failure to feed, due to having the top round cocked up in the mag after re-using one picked up from the ground. Of the 15k fired through the 5 different VZ's in the class, there were three (3) malfunctions. One stuck case and one other feeding issue just like mine. That's a considerably lower number than those experienced by the AR shooters in the class.

[campperrykid]

Nice rifles.
Is the lower rail with the Aimpoint one of the new Canadian NEA rails?
Looks really promising . Based onpictures , the NEA's seem to be the lowest VZ58 rails that I have seen yet. They're not available in the US , AFAIK , at least not yet.

[Stevo]

Yes, the lower rifle's rail is the NEA. There's an newer version of it coming out very soon. It's got a nicer finish and some changes that should make up for variations in fit due to individual rifle dimensional differences. It's definitely the lowest rail on the market.

In the new version the push pin is slightly larger diameter, and there are set screws at the front and rear to ensure less vertical movement. The old version was good and the new one will be better.

Czech-Point will be carrying them in the US but I don't know when.

[campperrykid]

Great news.
Czechpoint USA has earned a super reputation in the US.