Wrong stagger in charger ....

[lngstrt]

I acquired a crate of 1936 R+L Mk VII ball, in chargers, last year. I just opened a couple boxes for a range visit tomorrow. These rounds are all a bit dusty even though sealed in the little 20 round boxes so I have to wipe them off before shootin'.

Anyway, I noticed that, in both boxes, the rounds are not staggered in the recommended manner. _-_-_ They were one in front of the other seemingly establishing a top and bottom for each charger.

Any reason this might be so.

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[John R.]

Me old Sgt Major screamed ROBERTSON you "TW*T" it's DUDUD(as in down up down up down) and after rattling about for almost 70 years that's most likely why they are outta synch.I was 15 years old and a Rfn Recruit in the Victoria Rifles of Canada in Montreal when I learned this.Didn't lie my way in either.I was(and still am 6 foot 5) and Abie Zemel the Orderly Room callout WO2(G*d Bless him) saw LIVE POTENTIAL CANNON FODDER standing there at the counter.Handed me the paperwork,I filled it all in and was told to come back that evening.Did so,got the 5 minute medical check from the "quack" (who was one of my Profs at McGill Meds) and was passed FIT.

Ushered in to the CO's inner sanctum and he sped read my docs and screamed "ABIE this kids only FIFTEEN".BUT, the CO was LTC G.Rocke Robertson you see(NO relation that we could figure out but ??)since I was sent by the President of the Quebec Rifle Assn to be mentored by Tommy Richardson I was IN.never looked back either.

Dinner is served so I had best dash here.

Cheers,

JR

[XLesky]

I haven't had the chance to go out and fire my Savage No 4 MkI* yet as I'm busy moving house, but when I practice-load the magazine with the chargers filled DUDUD, I seem to get a few that still overlap the wrong way. Why is this??

[lngstrt]

DUDUD .... I like that!!

I have a back of the mind thought that they don't stay that way once they get in the magazine. I don't see how it could feed properly if round #1 was behind #2. Unless, as they enter the mag and the noses come up as the shape of the magazine bunches the noses together and the rims ..... They're not all lying horizontal with 10 in there are they??

[jmoore]

If they're overlapping you just have to make sure you run the charger in right side up. works fine in most rifles, but some are more finicky than others. My worst looking No4 that I use for CQC fun doesn't care at all how the rounds are arranged in the clips, it always feeds! Nothing else works quite as well though.

[Son]

Here's a link to an explanation of how your technique controls the way the rounds set into the mag. If you read it carefully and look at the pictures, you will see what to watch out for and be able to practice your loading so you will never suffer a rim-over jam feed malfunction again.

Sorry about having to link out with this- but I lost the article (and everything else) off my computer. I thought it was here somewhere, but couldn't find it.

Scroll down untill my posting about the sixth on the page.

Stripper Clip Loading? - Gunboard's Forums

[villiers]

Here's a link to an explanation of how your technique controls the way the rounds set into the mag. If you read it carefully and look at the pictures, you will see what to watch out for and be able to practice your loading so you will never suffer a rim-over jam feed malfunction again.

Sorry about having to link out with this- but I lost the article (and everything else) off my computer. I thought it was here somewhere, but couldn't find it.

Scroll down untill my posting about the sixth on the page.

Stripper Clip Loading? - Gunboard's Forums

I was trained to DUDUD too. And then (like most of the others) immediately forgot it. Rounds don´t know about DUDUD and so they don´t mind which way they go in.

[Son]

I was trained to DUDUD too. And then (like most of the others) immediately forgot it. Rounds don´t know about DUDUD and so they don´t mind which way they go in.

Exactly my point! In the last parragraph at the link, I said it doesn't matter how the chargers are loaded, as long as your stripping technique is right the magazine will sort them. I still load "DUDUD" anyway because it removes the one last possible cause of a problem, if you aren't concentrating...

[Beerhunter]

Anyway, I noticed that, in both boxes, the rounds are not staggered in the recommended manner. _-_-_ They were one in front of the other seemingly establishing a top and bottom for each charger.

Any reason this might be so.

That is how they were loaded and then issued. It was up to the user to sort them correctly. Not only that but "Infantry Training, Infantry Platoon Weapons, No4 Rifle and Bayonet suggests that one clean the chargers before use as well.

[infidel]

I've always just put the rounds in any old way in the chargers, and they always seem to feed fine in my jungle carbine. Never understood the DUDUD, its sort of counter intuitive, if you know what i mean.