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Frank, that saying apparently comes from some issues in Korea. No, it's not a very enhancing post and I don't think it originated with the poster.
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11-03-2009 11:03 PM
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Bill, read what he said in his first post. It's derogatory, racial and not a good reflection of our patriots and heroes and their sacrifices. And he still refuses to "OPOLIGIZE" to the 1st. Cav., and he should.....Frank
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Originally Posted by
Ramboueille
Frank,
There is a black mark on the 1st Cav. from Korea. They lost their colors early in the war and were not allowed to be stationed in the
USA until they won them back spectacularly in Vietnam (several times).
Ramboueille, I know about the black mark. It should not reflect on a unit of the armed forces of the United States. We can find units in any branch that have a similar history. I believe Gunsmith II was way over the top in his first post and should "opologize" to the men of the 1st. Cav. Div......Frank
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Originally Posted by
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Ramboueille, I know about the black mark. It should not reflect on a unit of the armed forces of the
United States. We can find units in any branch that have a similar history. I believe Gunsmith II was way over the top in his first post and should "opologize" to the men of the 1st. Cav. Div......Frank
Frank,
Yes, I edited my original post in order to not make the issue any more inflammatory than it is and I agree with you. The post should have been in quotation marks but still it's out of line today for a fine unit like the 1st Cav.
I personally interviewed a member of the 1st Cav. some years ago who was in the units and battles in question during Korea. He spent 3 years as a POW and his story on the whole issue is quite enlightening but I won't tell it here.
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Ramboueille, I would be interested in a PM of your interview, if you would like. I have a friend who was with the 1st. Cav. in Viet Nam who lost an eye, shoulder and ankle to automatic rifle fire. Can you imagine being on a radio, calling in an air strike and sufferring those kinds of wounds when your men are counting on you to save them......Frank
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History of - the Bug out Ballad
In the summer of 1950, North Korea attacked South Korea, and the 1st Cavalry Division was rushed to Korea to help shore up the Pusan Perimeter. After the X Corps attack at Inchon, a breakout operation was launched at the Pusan Perimeter. The 1st Cavalry Division remained in the line until it was relieved by the 45th Infantry Division from the United States Army National Guard in January 1952. Following the relief, the division returned to Japan. 1957 saw the division back in Korea, where it remained until 1965.
During the Korean War, there were disparaging rumors about the 1st Cavalry Division's fighting abilities, including a folk song of the time called "The Bug-Out Ballad".[4] It was also rumored that the series of engagements that gave rise to the song were due (at least partly) of the myth that the Division lost its unit colors[5]. Other Army and Marine units disparagingly described the division shoulder insignia as representing 'The horse they never rode, the river they never crossed, and the yellow speaks for itself'. Another version goes: "The shield they never used, the line they never held, the horse they never rode, and the yellow speaks for itself." The incident that apparently gave rise to this false rumor appears to be the Unsan Engagement which took place on 1 and 2 November 1950 at Unsan, Korea. In that battle, the 8th Cavalry, a component of the 1st Cavalry Division, was pushed back from positions in and around the town of Unsan by vastly superior Chinese forces. The regiment was severely battered, suffering heavy casualties and losing a considerable amount of equipment. This was one of the first major Chinese operations in the Korean War and, like the Changjin (Chosin) Reservoir Battle of this same period, it took the United Nations Command by surprise. Considering the circumstances, the 8th Cavalry fought very well, and it has never been criticized for its conduct in this operation
The Bug-Out Ballad (Moving on)
Hear the patter of running feet
It's the old First Cav in full retreat
They're moving on; they'll soon be gone
They're haulin' a$$, not savin' gas
They'll soon be gone.
Over on that hill there's a Russian tank
A million Chinks are on my flank
I'm movin' on, I'll soon be gone
With my M-1 broke, it ain't no joke
I'll soon be gone.
Million Chinks comin' through the pass
Playin' burp-gun boogie all over my a$$
I'm movin' on, I'll soon be gone
With my M-1 broke, it ain't no joke
I'll soon be gone.
Twenty thousand Chinks comin' through the pass
I'm tellin' you, baby, I'm haulin' a$$
I'm moving on; I'll soon be gone
I'm haulin' a$$, not savin' gas
I'll soon be gone.
Standin' in a rice paddy up to my belly
From then on, they called me "Smelly"
I'm moving on; I'll soon be gone
I'm haulin' ***, not savin' gas
I'll soon be gone.
Here's papa-san comin' down the track
Old A-frame strapped to his back
He's moving on; he'll soon be gone
he's haulin' ***, not savin' gas
He'll soon be gone.
Here's mama-san comin' down the track
Titty hangin' out, baby on her back
She's moving on; she'll soon be gone
From her tits to her toes, she's damn near froze
She'll soon be gone.
I sung this song for the very last time
Gonna get Korea off my mind
I'm moving on; I'll soon be gone
I done my time in the **** and slime
I'm movin' on.
From Ther Erotic Muse, Cray
Collected from Cray, 1953
Note: a parody of a country classic by Hank Snow
In Vietnam, they sang:
The McNamara Line is a hundred miles long
Completely surrounded by Viet Cong
I'm movin' on etc.
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose
There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet.
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