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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Same meat but different gravy................. get ready for this chaps, BUT, has anyone got or does anyone shoot a shoulder fired variant of the M8C spotting rifle that used a shortie .50" spotting round?

    Next question, who might have spares?
    Next question, is the shortie ammo scarce
    Next question, is it more or less expensive than bog standard .50" ammo

    I'm not expecting a rush of replies but out there somewhere..............................
    1. I'd heard of one of those 106mm spotting rifles rigged up that way, 25 years ago (check your PMs)
    2. SARCO, Inc - might have a very few
    3. yes.
    4. Way more.

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    M48 (.50spotter guns and ammo)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Same meat but different gravy................. get ready for this chaps, BUT, has anyone got or does anyone shoot a shoulder fired variant of the M8C spotting rifle that used a shortie .50" spotting round?

    Next question, who might have spares?
    Next question, is the shortie ammo scarce
    Next question, is it more or less expensive than bog standard .50" ammo

    I'm not expecting a rush of replies but out there somewhere..............................
    I'm an 06FFL (ammo mfg) and shoot the M48 - .50spotter round in a AR15 conversion upper made by the former UltraLite50 (Ligamec Inc) company in FL.
    The company has changed hands recently and is now called Tactilite. I don't know if they still offer the M48 chambering.
    Serbu Firearms has also offered their BFG-50 Carbine chambered for the M48 in the past.

    http://www.CH4D.com makes the reloading dies (1.50"dia)

    Brass comes up for sale occasionally at http://www.hi-techammo.com from surplus pull-down, or it can be made from .50BMG brass using forming dies from CH4D.

    It's a fun little cartridge... Here's my review of my UltraLite50 conversion:
    UltraMag50 Range Report

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdermonkey72 View Post
    Some more newly loaded .50 BMG brass with .55 cnc milled solid coppers shoe horned into them. They are very consistent loadings, provided the charge is held gently with a small wad of white fluffy stuff called Dacron. Even without it, the primer lights the candle very well.
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    Old forum post I know, but was wondering which dies you use to re-size the 50BMG cases? I have a set of C4D dies but any .55 Boys cases I resize come out with the necks oversize, resulting in no grip on CNC'd bullets machined to the exact same OD and profile as the original. Will send the re-sizing die back, but was wondering if you have had better luck with another manufacturer. Also, what power and charge weight are you using? I've finally found a range in the UKicon where I can use my .55 once i get the paperwork sorted, so need to get some reloading done in the near future.
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    .55" projectiles........... I was talking to a KIWI Boys a/tk rifle shooter at a Thompson show at the NRA building in Washington and he was using .5" steel rod machined to shape as the projectile with annealed 1/2" brass pipe fitting ferrules as two driving bands and obturation rings roill crimped (as per pipe fittings) into the projectile. Obviously with these, the steel projectiles didn't touch the bore and he said that it made the projectiles virtually the same weight as the standard projectile. Quite how he seated them into the case I don't know but where there's a will, there's a way! He contacted me afterwards regarding the availability in the UKicon for lots of 1/2" plumbing ferrules!

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    Gentlemen

    Given that 50 BMG had been around since the late 1910's why would Mr Boys have gone with .55 cal rather than just using the existing .50 cal?

    Was the .55 cal in use elsewhere?

    Paul

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    The Ordnance Board started out with a .5 version of the Boys case (which was developed from the 13.2mm Hotchkiss) called the Stanchion gun, but could not get the penetration desired so in 1936 upped the calibre to .55 inch.

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    And it was still only marginal. By May 1940, it had been relegated from marginal to useless!

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    Thanks for the info, I like the idea of copper driving bands on a solid proj. Ended up getting some solid copper 805gn heads from Peter Meyer, they are very well made indeed (alomst too nice to shoot!) - he even supplied a CAD drawing so I should be able to get them made up here in the UKicon.
    Just need a tidy MK1* to go with my MK1...

    On a side note, were the MK2 AP bullets lighter, with a higher MV than the MK1? Reading conflicting information on this - I've got 926gn for the MK1, and 735gn for the MK2 - but various MV's for the MK1.
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    Good day!

    maybe a bit out of the previous conversation, but i recently got a Deac MK1 and missing the monopod... I have only the upper part of it which was still installed on the cradle.

    Thank you!!
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