Lee Enfield Armorers training cutaway rifle

[remi]

Picked up a Lee Enfield Armorers training cutaway rifle. Have never seen one for sale before, is demilled with a welded up receiver, drilled shortened barrel in 80% condition, any idea of value?

Thanks. Remi

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[spinecracker]

There is one, a No.1 Mk.3, selling on gunbroker at the moment, but the auction hasn't finished yet

[Alan de Enfield]

You dont say whereabouts in the world you are.

I've seen a couple sell in the USA for around the $450 mark but there are different 'standards' from official 'Military' to 'Bubba' so it depends what youve got.

The 'good' ones section the butt showing the pull through and oil bottle, section the action, magazine, bolt and Knox form.

[Peter Laidler]

As a matter of interest, while these were used during the training of Armourers, the official UK Military ones all carry a SKN xxxx serial number along the angled top left hand body edge, magazine and bolt. This 'new' number often carried on over the old US PROPERTY mark if you have a Savage Mk1* version. The old number has usually been half-heartedly linished out but you can still read it at a push.

I gathered in a whole load of them several years ago and one of them was based on a unserviceable BSA No4T. I kept it!

The rifles and Brens were skeletonised by LIST engineering at Dagenham. If the name LIST doesn't ring any bells, it might, because he helped George Patchett design and develop the silenced L34 sub machine gun

They were never (?....so far as I can ascertain) allocated a post '55 L series designation unlike the later skeletonised L1A1's

[Beerhunter]

As has been said, skeletons were not just for training armourers. They were used as a training aid for everyone. We had one at school, as did every cadet unit at that time.

[Badger]

~Angel~ has onw in her collection as well ...

I think it's a No.1 MK III, but I'll have to take some pics and post them when I get a chance...

Regards,
Badger

[Lance]

Here are a few examples. A MLM Mk II, SMLE Mk III*, and No.4 Mk I. I have had no luck finding a MLM Mk I, or SMLE Mk I, if anyone has one I would love to see it.

[Peter Laidler]

I was involved in a bit of case law that didn't materialise regarding these and they are deemed to be no longer firearms as defined in the UK............ Yes, I know, you could in fact fire one if you were suicidal or just stupid, but.....

[Kev G]

Peter,are you implying that no prosecution took place but that as no court case unsued that no ruling on the matter was given ? Could a prosecution still be brought at the whim of the police and CPS ?

atb Kevin

[Peter Laidler]

I suppose it COULD but as the CPS declined to take it on in the past, it wouldn't bode well if they then tried to take it on later. That's the reason they don't pursue these cases. I was involved in the L60A1 case too..., of the DP L1A1/SLR. They wouldn't pursue that either and gave the 'rifle' back. So giving the 'rifle' back effectively closed all future attempts to prosecute