Still another Standard Products

[dnikkor]

I kinda hate to start a new thread on a similar subject, but my earlier posted question wasn't getting any bites.

I don't know why Standard Products carbines are attracted to me. No sooner than I snooze & loose a real nice one, I run across another one with many if not all early features.....correct flip sight, Type 1 band, push safety AND stock with no rebuild mark. There is a ghost of a cartouche on the right and a strong SH-B in the slingwell. I didn't get a chance to tear into it today, but I will tomorrow. This could really be one of those proverbial "duffle-bag carbines".

The downside? Lots of finish wear. Stock may have been partially sanded and varnished. The barely readable 12/43 dated Underwood barrel has a MW of 2, which ain't bad. Basically this is a rack grade SP, most likely with all the original correct parts and no providence to prove its heritage, and it sure has a patina that is very long in the making. Asking $900, will sell for $700.

This might be a no-brainer to everybody here, but $700 is not a small sum of money this time of the year following a major car repair and the purchase of a Bavarian Rural Police w/flip.

Anybody see any reason (other than that pesky money thing) I shouldn't jump on this like dirty on a hog?

Update, on my way to pick it up. Once I get the chance to photograph it, I'll put them up.

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[dnikkor]

Carbine harvested, info rundown below, photos hopefully tomorrow:

Standard Products, serial #21184xx, Dec. '43?
Barrel-Underwood dated 12/43, preferred by SP, MW-2
Front sight-marked "N" for SP
Barrel band-Type 1 unmarked, correct. Swivel is marked "UI"....not sure if swivel is correct...anybody know?
Rear sight-Type A flip, unmarked, correct
Op rod-Type A, variation 4, SP marked "S" in a circle, numbers 8, 4 stamped on side
Bolt-flat marked "S-29" for SP, no idea on guts
Trigger housing-SP, Type A, variation 3 brazed, stamped "ST" (WB says that they didn't use these until Jan. 15, 1944...others here and on CMP forum say they used them earlier...maybe this one is evidence to that supposition?)
Hammer-Type A, variation 1 dogleg marked "SW", correct
Sear-"SW" marked, correct
Mag catch-Type A, variation 2 stamped "SW", correct
Trigger-have to strip further to tell for sure
Safety-Type A, unmarked, correct
Stock-Type A, variation 2 with oval aperture. Ghost of a cartouche on right, strong S-HB stamped in sling well.
NO REBUILD STAMP
Recoil plate-marked "Standard Products", upside down, haven't removed it yet to see what type.
Butt Plate-SP, marked"S-S3", little rusty
Handguard-four rivet replacement

I bought it at a Kansas City gunshow Sunday. Seller said he bought it from an older guy (not WWII age) who said he "had it for quite awhile." So much for any providence. It shows quite a bit of wear on the finish, some grime and a patina that is consistent throughout.

This carbine has not been put together. I think I really might have one of those honest-to-gawd duffel bag carbines!

[dnikkor]

Here are some quick pics. I'll tear apart & photograph the guts when time allows.

http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/s...view=slideshow

[shadycon]

Looks like a rare find. I would have used my beer money to buy it. At least a years worth!! Congrat's.

[dnikkor]

Looks like a rare find. I would have used my beer money to buy it. At least a years worth!! Congrat's.

Thanks. This is one I really couldn't afford right now, but then again I couldn't afford not to.

[Brasidas]

Damn... some people have all the luck. Great find!

Nice to know its now in a good home and will be appreciated.

[Maniac]

Thanks. This is one I really couldn't afford right now, but then again I couldn't afford not to.

You did very well, that carbine can be parted out for well more than you paid, not that you'd want to! If it's got lots of finish wear and it's all-original it could likely mean it saw some extended WWII combat service. Minty old original USGI rifles are a beauty to behold in their own right but I for one love the examples that fought the good fight and look it.
I'd just consider it an early Christmas present to #1
Lucky dawg!!

[dnikkor]

Now I'm torn between leaving it exactly as is or switching out the four rivet handguard to a two rivet S-HB I have and also switching the rather rusty SP butt plate with another SP plate I have that still shows honest wear. Of course I would keep any replaced parts to put it exactly as was. Wondering if I should even give the stock a little BLO.

[Maniac]

Now I'm torn between leaving it exactly as is or switching out the four rivet handguard to a two rivet S-HB I have and also switching the rather rusty SP butt plate with another SP plate I have that still shows honest wear. Of course I would keep any replaced parts to put it exactly as was. Wondering if I should even give the stock a little BLO.

I'd say yes to all the above, especially the part about keeping the 4 rivet handguard & rusty buttplate. And any good GI would rub a little BLO on the stock, no harm, no foul!

[Curt]

I am starting to see a little BLO-BLO/Turp is a must have to keep stocks from cracking and drying out